m36 question??

[Jens Thune]

Has anyone seen a m36 tunic with 6 buttons before??

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Heer/photos/H068157.html

Kind regards
Jens

[NTZ]

It is actually an M41 with added green collar.

[airborne_steve]

Yup! M41 with up-grade green collar. Typical NCO thing to do.

Steve

[Jens Thune]

Thanks guys, for your fast replies..

Kind regards
Jens

[Paul McKee]

Its also been shortened & the lower pockets moved up...also a common NCO affectation.

Nice tunic, but she isn't cheap, is she?

Paul

[sander vw]

Nice tunic! I own one similar with the same makermark and lining, and also a green added collar.

[JPhilip]

Retailored Feldbluse 1933 modified 1941.
interesting feature : markings are positioned like on Luftwaffe tunics

[JuanS]

Hi

It look like they used a "Dutch" cloth for the liner. The wool is not "Dutch".


Juan

[John Huff]

I've heard of an M36 tunic; an M40; 42; 43 and 44... What the heck is an M41 variation?

[Laurent]

The sixth button John !

Amitiés

Laurent

[NTZ]

I've heard of an M36 tunic; an M40; 42; 43 and 44... What the heck is an M41 variation?

Yep, a M41 is a M40 with the sixth button. They started to appear in 1941 hence M41. You got to love the collector designations.

[Paul McKee]

Yep, a M41 is a M40 with the sixth button. They started to appear in 1941 hence M41. You got to love the collector designations.

Yup, we collectors are obsessed with categorization where none officially existed. Five button, six button, pleats or no pleats...to the Wehrmacht, these were simply "Feldblusen".

Paul

[NTZ]

Yup, we collectors are obsessed with categorization where none officially existed. Five button, six button, pleats or no pleats...to the Wehrmacht, these were simply "Feldblusen".

Paul

I can see it now, a German soldier standing in line getting his issue clothing. “Hey, what the hell is this? It looks like a M42. I specifically said I wanted a M40! If I wanted pockets with no pleats I would have said M42! Damm get it right brother.”

[pzrwest]

The soldier didn't care what issue he was given as it has been said a feldblus is a feldblus. Nco's and Officers if they had the money could have their tunics altered but they still had to be approved by the unit quartermaster

[JPhilip]

Yup, we collectors are obsessed with categorization where none officially existed. Five button, six button, pleats or no pleats...to the Wehrmacht, these were simply "Feldblusen".

Hello Paul,
I'm afraid that i have to disagree with you a little bit. I believe that for a part of the german soldiers serving in the Heer, a Feldbluse was just a Feldbluse, but there was another part of these troops which were involved in a process of beautification, to make the Feldbluse more attractive. It started with walking-out Feldblusen, then it came to field garments. Dark green collar, retailoring, early Litzen, early shoulderstraps, private purchased embroidered breast eagles, all these coloured insignia which reminded the good old years, before the war and the first victories. Also a good way to look like an Alte Grenadier.

I also disagree with you on another point.
five or six buttons is not the point here, in this case it goes farther. the Feldbluse 1933 modified 1940 and the Feldbluse 1933 modified 1941 are IMO totally different.
For the Feldbluse 33/41 :
- sixth button (official text : HM 41 Nr 558 of may 26th, 1941)
- change of construction for the lower pockets (following the design of the tropical Feldbluse)
- introduction of first ersatz lining (ex: rayon..)
- first real rupture about the Feldgrau color adopted in 1910 (accepted in 1907)

IMO that's not just a question of collector categorization...
cheers
JPhilip