Hi Michel, they are the "sew-in" pattern shoulder boards for a Waffen SS Artillery Obersturmfuhrer. As far as I can see they look original.
Hope this helps you?
Cheers, Ade.
Hi John, I think you are correct about the shoulder boards being the slip through type. Just looked again and saw the tongue!
The underlay looks black on my monitor but if it is grey then they are indeed Heer Artillery Reserve. So Michel the answer is one of the two based upon the secondary colour being black or grey.
Cheers, Ade.
You guys know this stuff much better than I. For most of my life I've been collecting only bluegrey uniforms with yellow waffenfarbe. But are you sure these boards are only for Luftwaffe?
When I was a teen, I collected Heer and KM uniforms as well as Luft. One of the tunics I acquired then was a beautiful Heer Hauptmann's tunic with sew in boards exactly like these, (with the extra pip of course) red with the dark green underlay. Hate to admit it, but this was so long ago it was before reference books, and I had no idea about the dark green underlay. Obviously I had forgotten again, I mean, if it isn't yellow, then does it really matter... There may still be a photo of this tunic at my parents home, if I can find it, I'll post it here later.
Rick and Dave are right. Some years ago I picked up a mint pair of these at the Great Western Show. Usually they are referred to as "T" boards, with the end portion secured in a slot in the shoulder seam.
In my prior post I mean that the Hauptmann boards were the same color layers and metallic thread, not that they were "T" boards. They were not, they were sew in.
The KM did have "T" boards, of different design of course, for officer's tropical tunics, and Michel probably has some
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