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    DAK Tunic - Please Help!!!

    Hi Everybody!

    I've been offered a DAK tunic (although I haven't seen it yet - hopefully tomorrow) and just wanted to do a bit of preliminary checking. From what I've been told it is not dated: although perhaps the buttons will be. It is complete with should boards (leutnant), cuff title, ribbon bar and breast eagle.

    (Possibly) Sounds good so far but here's the thing, the inside of the jacket has a Royal Navy stamp. I know its no easy task to verify something without a photo but can anyone offer a reason as to why it would have a RN stamp. Could it have been taken by members of the Royal Navy and subsequently catalogued?

    Also, is it feasible that its 'right' and yet not have any date stamps?

    Thanks for your time.

    All the best,
    Toby.

    PS The seller, who is not a dealer, claims that the tunic dates to 42(ish).
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    Photos needed

    It's been a couple days since you posted this. Can you describe it in detail now or show us photos of it. There isn't much any of us can do to help you out without a lot more information or photos.

    Tropical tunics are ink stamped inside with a series of pairs of numbers that indicate sizes as well as a letter of the alphabet to indicate the issuing depot and two numbers next to it to indicate the year it was issued (ie: B41). This is found below the size numbers. This was done on all tunics that were issued and not privately purchased officer tunics. No numbers -- buyer beware.

    A lot of really strange tunics are being offered for sale these days as DAK tunics including some pretty bad fakes and usually they are decked out with AFRIKAKORPS armbands -- which are actually scarce on original tunics since only one was issued originally to each man and those early tunics they were sewn to wore out and were replaced with tunics without cuff titles. Look at thousands of wartime photos to see how scarce those cuff titles are.

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      Dear Ralph,

      Thanks for taking the time to reply. As it happens, the tunic was so bad when seen, that I didn't need to take it any further. It had been stripped and as for markings, all it had was a mark to indicate that it was made in France. It was a bit of a mess all round. All the same thank you for your advice, particularly, 'no numbers - buyer beware' - I shall burn this into my memory.

      All the best,
      Toby.

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        Ralph,

        I managed to get a photo - front row, 6th from the left.

        But seriously, I picked this photo up a couple of weeks ago, and sure enough it supports your point that not many cuff titles survived. I imagine that even if they had managed to remain on the uniforms, up to this point, they would most probably have been stripped by the captors.

        Anyway, just thought you might like to have a look at the photo.

        All the best,
        Toby.
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          Photo of POWs

          Toby,

          That's an interesting photo -- any indication of where or when it was taken? I'd guess it was fairly early in the campaign since so many of the men have bleached their caps to a very light tan or white although some men were still wearing them in May 1943.

          It's also interesting in that some of the men have very light tan trousers which may be natural linen fatigue trousers (Drillichhose). I have seen a couple photos showing army troops working on details in N. Africa wearing fatigue tunics but have never come across actual tropical army trousers made in tan cotton though tunics were made in this color and I have three of them.

          Thanks for posting the photo -- it'd be interesting to know where they were captured.

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            Sorry, Ralph, no definite clue as to when it was taken. If you haven't copied the photo, let me know your e-mail address and I'll send you a copy.

            Possibly, a clue as to the country of the Allied troops involved: the photographic paper is by 'Velox', as marked on the reverse, which from my research on the web would seem to be an American company. There are also some numbers: '883' and '18518', not that I think these will help.

            Cheers,
            Toby.

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