Panzerjager collar tabs, opinions?

[Norman Keller]

What do you guys think of these? I would like to find out if they are good or not. I think maybe they are, but I'm not a panzer guy so I'm not sure. If they are then they must be rare. Maybe for a HBT wrap or something the piping color and the dark base color are what are throughing me off. Please if you have any info please post a reply, thanks
Norman

[Norman Keller]

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[MartyC]

tabs

I think Norman needs a comment on these from someone who is more up on sturmartillerie tabs than me, but to me the litzen looks odd... Has anyone seen this style before?

Marty

[PaulR]

I dont know anything about the construction of the tabs, yet the waffenfarbe appears to be more of a carmine than a red or rose pink.

[B. N. Singer]

From those pictures, I could entertain doubts.

B. N. Singer