My firend has recently purchased these boards, he believes they may be DAK field made boards for Bau. The piping is wool. Any opinions appreciated. Thanks!
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I do not like them for many reasons. A few of them are; why would field made straps have a wool underlay? I have seen field altered straps, but never field made straps. They make little sense.
JohnEsse Quam VideriComment
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Im not a big fan of the button holes. The wool on the back sides, should be brown. I wouldn't have them in my collection. IMHO
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looks like a regular zigzag stitch on the buttonholes...Comment
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The DAK ran out of shoulder straps in Africa. With the help of the Royal Navy and their own supply chaos they just never had enough. It would seem logical that in desperation some field made ones would have been produced out of what was available. Others were sometimes produced out of necessity or desire by the Italian manufacturers and Arab tailors.
How can you tell if such shoulder straps are of pre-1945 construction? now that is the question
Some-times it is a case of what some collectors will accept and what others will not. This can reach a point where no matter how hard you try, you just can not find out for sure.Last edited by 90th Light; 04-09-2006, 05:53 PM.Comment
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The salient question is why "emergency" field made straps would have wool underlay? If one needs straps in a hurry, why waste time and precious wool underlaying them?Esse Quam VideriComment
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I'm nowhere near the expert John and Jerry are, but I don't like them either. A few issues to be factory made, and too well costructed for field made to me.HCComment
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[QUOTE=90th Light]Some-times it is a case of what some collectors will accept and what others will not.
Yes, well, despite what possibility "theory" one would like to point to as to why these Just Might be original, the simple fact is that these are FAKE!
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Very early DAK Straps
I'd have to examine these to be sure but these look like very early factory made DAK shoulder straps. The wool piping was used through 1940 - 41 and after that we see more extensive use of rayon piping.
The field grey backing doesn't bother me at all.
Early DAK straps often had Field Grey backing material - many manufacturers used whatever they had on hand. recylced wool scaps, etc. I have even seen garish shades of wool felt, LW blue-grey wool, even canvas.
I have a pair of vet acquired Panzer Jaeger NCO shoulder straps in my collection with purple wool felt backing material.
The German textile industry was under great strain from 1941 onwards as it became ever more difficult to keep up with wartime needs.
After 1942 we see more and more manufacturing done on a piece rate basis from smaller manufacturers and even stay at home moms.
I would take a chance on them.
Diane
www.brandenburghistorica.com
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Early Heer DAK straps are backed with brown wool. Field grey came later. And, what branch of service would you place these straps as belonging to?Originally posted by DianeEsse Quam VideriComment
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Hmmmmm . . .
Hi John,
You are right. I got my backing colours reversed. Field grey came later.
Well, the light brown branch piping would indicate Bautruppen I think. There doesn't seem to be much fading on the boards.
Wool piping wasn't really used much after 1942 though, although existing stocks would have been used until exausted. Nothing was ever thrown away.
Wool piping had to go through several steps before it could be used for piping. The Rayon piping that came into use from 1940 onwards was a lot easier to use in the mass production of shoulder boards.
I would think these boards could be 50 / 50. I'd be willing to take a chance on them but the wool piping would be a warning flag to many.
Diane
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