Reichsbahn Eagle

[cobra-2001]

eagle

Here is a bronze one i got off a member here and it was said to not be original but if you look at it you will not see any of the sand or rough stuff on it wings or any where else. By the way the one I had also measured the same size as a original one . Cliff

[JR.]

What is the width of the bronze eagle, Cliff ?

[Berghof]

Every time I turn around, there’s more work to be done . Aluminum is prone to corrosion when exposed to weathering and atmospheric oxygen...that's fact...and that's mother nature. There is no aluminum on earth that is exempt from this fact. Aluminum oxidation occurs at different rates depending the finish and the environment surrounding the aluminum. If stored in less favorable conditions such as a damp basement or say in the corner of a garage, there is no getting around corrosion…especially in the northeast climates where we have wild weather swings/humidity/condensation. Aluminum oxide appears as a powdery white or dull gray coating.

It didn't have to be on a side of a train to experience oxidation. Many vets I've come accross did not store these examples in a climate controlled environment. Some of these sat in unfinished dirt basements on the floor buried under 70+ years of junk.

Example, here are pictures of an oil pan and steering knuckle from a 2015 Viper. It has 3000 miles on it and never saw rain, snow or any inclement weather only driven in the summer. It rests in a non-climate control garage where the aluminum is exposed to moister vaping from the garage floor. It’s is only 4 years old, there’s oxidation. It’s going to happen.

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[Berghof]

Now here's the same oil pan treated with a preservative (oil) to prevent additional oxidation. The white oxide turns black/darkens. People do this all the time trying to prevent further oxidation and some try to clean the eagles up. If they try to polish or sand the oxidation, the fine black debris will ingrain into the existing oxidation making it look black. They can't get into the crevasses so the oxidation in the crevasses trap the fine dark polish debris.

The machined and non machined examples I have shown were scrutinized under metalurgical microscope and profilometer. The graining structures and surfaces were spot on.

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[Miltaria_Dealer]

Hi all

sorry for my late answer and thank you so much for all your help about this item. Here a picture with measures as requested. Thanks again all! Cheers, Dan

[JR.]

That's a period eagle that Dan shows at the beginning of this topic.

[JR.]

It's interesting to note that although the foundry of Pinter "PS" also made a very similar eagle in which we see marked " PS Wagen 600", they are not the same eagle produced by this firm marked LOK 600. 2 different eagles entirely.

[Berghof]

Hard to tell from the angle, but it looks proper measuring almost 23 3/4" for a PSLOK 600. 600mm = 23.62 inches...almost 23 11/16".

[Berghof]

It's interesting to note that although the foundry of Pinter "PS" also made a very similar eagle in which we see marked " PS Wagen 600", they are not the same eagle produced by this firm marked LOK 600. 2 different eagles entirely.

It is interesting. I hardly see the PS Wagen 600 versions. Have you seen this version? Most are skeptical...I haven't been able to get my hands on one. The Silicon is designated as a 51.


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[JR.]

I've not seen an Ellok 600, Sir.

[cobra-2001]

What is the width of the bronze eagle, Cliff ?

Hi Jr its been a while since I had it . I did send you the pictures back the and the measurements which were right on. I Think the were 23.5/8 if I remember right. Cliff

[bodes]

600mm = 23.62 inches...almost 23 11/16".

600mm X .03937 = 23.622"......60cm X .3937 = 23.622".....The tapemeasure reads close to the 60cm mark on the tape, but also close to the 23 - 5/8" mark.....This would be a mere .003" (23.625 - 23.622) difference.....Sorry for my over analysis of the data....Bodes