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    Imperial Flag ID ?

    I picked this up years ago and never gave it much thought. I had always assumed it was a car pennant or something for a lance. In fact, I had thought I had posted it here at one time or another but looking around today I can’t find that I ever did. (must be the booze and recreational stuff from college is taking its toll some thirty plus years later)

    Anyway, it measures a bit over 12" high and a little over 14.5" wide. Where the trailing edge was all frayed at the fly edge it may well have been 15" in overall length once. It's obviously faded and wind damaged. Germany’s tricolor and Imperial eagle are printed on a cotton material. The size of the thing and the tell tale rust stains along the hoist edge make me believe, as I mentioned, it was either a vehicle flag or a pennant for a lance. Back in 2002 I had it professionally mounted & framed. The gold frame is 19" wide x 16.5" high and utilizes archival grey (Feldgrau) mat board and UV resistant glass.

    Anyway, looking around trying to recall where (if) I posted this I was trying to ascertain just what (really) it was. Searching “Imperial car pennant” I found zip. Nothing similar that I could find for a lance either. In fact, I couldn’t find a tri-color with the eagle configured this way. Knowing virtually nothing of flags, my impression, from stumbling around trying to make sense from descriptive nuances in other threads that I’m tripping over is that it’s seemingly not some version of war flag (IKF) but, possibly, some manner of Imperial Government Service Flag (IDF) where it has the ribbon crowned eagle. I’m hoping for some enlightenment here as well as where might a 12”x15” flag such as this be used?
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    The white portion of tri-color is twice as wide, 6”, as the black & red sections at 3”. The eagle has an award/cross hanging which I can’t presume to ID as well as a shield. Anyway ~ help/guidance?

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          Originally posted by Rick C View Post
          Imperial Flag ID ?
          I picked this up years ago and never gave it much thought.
          ... assumed it was a car pennant or something for a lance.
          ... measures a bit over 12" high and a little over 14.5" wide.
          ... tricolor and Imperial eagle are printed on a cotton material.
          ... seemingly not some version of war flag (IKF) but, possibly,
          some manner of Imperial Government Service Flag (IDF) where
          ... I’m hoping for some enlightenment ... as where might this be
          used?

          Hello RC:
          Flag you posted is IMO a stick mounted parade spectator
          version of the German Imperial Government Service Flag
          (IDF). Larger flag design was used like the later 3rd Reich
          RDF, on Government buildings, in and outside of Germany,
          and not just for in country colonial use, but also by veterans.

          OFW
          (below) An IDF example offered on eBay in 2002, "It came from
          the German Embassy in Ottawa, Canada. ...13' in length and 6' 3"
          in width."


          (below-2) IDF WW1 captured, as noted elsewhere online.
          "Capture of German Samoa ...
          "When war broke out in Europe in August 1914, Britain asked New
          Zealand to seize German Samoa as a ‘great and urgent Imperial service’.
          New Zealand’s response was swift. Led by Lieutenant-Colonel Robert Logan,
          the 1385-strong Samoa Advance Party of the New Zealand Expeditionary
          Force landed at Apia on 29 August. There was no resistance from German
          officials or Samoa’s general population.
          Next day Logan proclaimed a New
          Zealand-run British Military Occupation of Samoa. The German flag
          was lowered and all buildings and properties belonging to the previous
          administration were seized. In the presence of officers, troops and ‘leading
          Native chiefs’, the British flag was raised outside the government building in
          Apia.
          This was the second German territory, after Togoland in Africa, to fall
          to the Allies in the First World War."

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