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    Fascist Spanish Flag Help Needed

    I just found this Franco era Spanish flag. It's said to have been brought to the U.S.A. in 1939 with a Spanish immigrant family. It's measurement is about 4 x 8 feet. It's made of double faced satin with vintage style hand assisted embroidery. It's very nicely made, single sided with a pile sleeve running the length of the left side when facing it, and actually quite heavy.

    Can anyone add any information as to whether this dates to the outbreak of War in Europe. Any ideas as to value for such a flag. It would really look nice with a Blue Division collection.

    Thanks for your help.

    Chuck
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    #2
    Flag use period ???

    Originally posted by vonStubben View Post
    ... Spanish flag. ... brought to the U.S.A. in 1939
    ... about 4 x 8 feet. ... double faced satin ...
    Chuck
    FOTW lists the design use as 1940-1945.
    OFW
    sigpic
    .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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      #3
      Originally posted by oldflagswanted View Post
      FOTW lists the design use as 1940-1945.
      OFW
      Interesting....thank you.

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        #4
        I've spent the past couple of days trying to find more information on this flag. It seems that these are very hard to come by. The only one that I've been able to find is on eBay and they're asking $995.00 for it and it doesn't even compare to this one.

        I'm posting this poor screenshot from a film found on YouTube of the Blue Division in Russia carrying such a flag.



        https://www.ebay.com/itm/SPANISH-CIV...EAAOSwOLVbNTJl
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        Last edited by vonStubben; 10-26-2018, 01:42 PM.

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          #5
          It appears you can no longer copy and paste eBay pictures so I've taken screenshot's for future reference since the above link will eventually expire.
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            #6
            Some comments ...

            Originally posted by vonStubben View Post
            ...
            this flag. It seems that these are very hard to come by.
            The only one that I've been able to find is on eBay and
            they're asking $995.00 for it and it doesn't even compare
            to this one.
            [and]
            ... I've taken screenshot's for future reference since the
            above link will eventually expire.
            VS:
            Thanks for posting the interesting screen shots.
            OFW
            (below) Noting coa different on cited auction flag.
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            Last edited by oldflagswanted; 10-26-2018, 04:59 PM.
            sigpic
            .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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              #7
              Originally posted by oldflagswanted View Post
              VS:
              Thanks for posting the interesting screen shots.
              OFW
              (below) Noting coa different on cited auction flag.
              Yes I noticed that too. Thank you again for your help.

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                #8
                I've been trying to get some close up shots of the embroidery but they've all been rejected. I'm taking new photos and will add them soon.

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                  #9
                  Close ups
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                    #11
                    More photos & info ...

                    Originally posted by vonStubben View Post
                    ... screenshot from a film found on YouTube of
                    the Blue Division in Russia carrying such a flag.
                    [and]
                    ... some close up shots of the embroidery ....
                    VS:
                    IMO a very nice embroidery WW2 Spain flag.
                    Russia use screenshot can also be seen on
                    page 64 of the 2000 Osprey Davis book FOTTR
                    ISBN 1-84176673-9, where he says that it is
                    from April 1943, "The [Blue] division's own
                    Colour was the national flag of Spain.
                    "
                    More on Spanish flags is included on pages
                    70, 82 (plate H), 96-97. More photos follow ...

                    (below)
                    2000 Osprey Davis book FOTTR ISBN 1-841766739.
                    (below-2,3,4) ... and more from my Spanish collection.


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                    Last edited by oldflagswanted; 10-27-2018, 02:22 AM.
                    sigpic
                    .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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                      #12
                      Originally posted by oldflagswanted View Post
                      VS:
                      IMO a very nice embroidery WW2 Spain flag.
                      Russia use screenshot can also be seen on
                      page 64 of the 2000 Osprey Davis book FOTTR
                      ISBN 1-84176673-9, where he says that it is
                      from April 1943, "The [Blue] division's own
                      Colour was the national flag of Spain.
                      "
                      More on Spanish flags is included on pages
                      70, 82 (plate H), 96-97. More photos follow ...

                      (below)
                      2000 Osprey Davis book FOTTR ISBN 1-841766739.
                      (below-2,3,4) ... and more from my Spanish collection.


                      I always enjoy how thorough you are with your help.

                      I also measured the flag accurately and it measures 8"L x 5"W.
                      Last edited by vonStubben; 10-27-2018, 10:06 AM.

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                        #13
                        todocoleccion.net for all things Spanish a lot of Spanish militaria listed there a Spanish version of eBay so to speak . Look in the sold category not listed.

                        The flag is nice and defiantly original but, common in Spain than in the U.S. I've seen similar for around 300euro or less the majority of the time.

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                          #14
                          Available WW2 Spanish flags ???

                          Originally posted by PeterValadez View Post
                          todocoleccion.net for all things Spanish ...
                          ... The flag is nice and defiantly original
                          but, common in Spain than in the U.S. I've
                          seen similar for around 300euro or less the
                          majority of the time.
                          PV:
                          Lots to wade through there via this link,
                          but I'm not having much success so far.
                          Maybe you could post some examples?
                          .......
                          ........... OFW ..................
                          sigpic
                          .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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                            #15
                            Yes, its confusing for me sometimes. Search "bandera franco" in militar category only to see live ones. Do not search in English the results get messed up.


                            Here are some completed ones from 1940s.

                            Last photo is just of some rarer unit ones. Maybe one day I will get one.
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                            Last edited by PeterValadez; 10-28-2018, 12:56 PM.

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