Kriegsmarine Flag Orignial?

[Ohms931]

Hi Gentlemen,
This is my first post on here I only wish I found this website a long time ago! Anyway I'd like to ask your advice on a flag I have in mind, see pics. I almost bought it until I read in one of the other post on here that flags made by Plutzar & Brull K.G., Bielitz O/S are suspect. Do you think this is fake or legit & what would be a reasonable price be?
Also I remember seeing on a modelling website regarding sizes of Kriegsmarine flags and the size of warship they were used on , can anyone point me in the right direction as I lost the site info
Finally can you tell me if a Kriegsmarine flag has to have the eagle with 'M' below as quite reputable seller told me that a particular flag I was interested in (not this one) a smaller 50 x 85 "was definately used for U-Boats" but it doesnt appear to have the eagle & 'M'. Although almost mint he was asking $1200 for it
Anyway thanks for looking I'd appreciate any advice

[Sturmj98k]

Welcome to the forum! The flag is authentic. Just FYI 1200 for any kriegflag is highway robbery

[David Guist]

Hi most people list these for around $500.00. But they are not selling very well right now. Best regards

Go down to the e stand section and you can pick out a nice one.

[AndyC]

Nice and original flag IMO

Dont pay 1200 USD for a 50x85 its way too much


Andy

[AndyC]

Its easy too get addictive to collect flags, here are some of mine


Andy

[Ohms931]

Gents
Thanks for your comments and advice
Ive had a look at the e stand and I cant find any of this approx. size in Kriegsmarine stamped M. Which brings me to another question. What actually was the correct size that was use on U-Boats? I know this question has been asked many times but although there are various answers there is nothing definitive that I have found so far. Is it 50x85 (I personally think this is a bit small) 80x135 or 100x170?
The flag i have shown doesnt have double stiching all the way down the outer edge just on the corners (see pic) therefore would this have actually been made for U-Boats or small craft? The other pic shows some small holes on the flag would that detract much from the value at all?

Thanks

Ohms

[David Guist]

This may help some.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=542070

[AndyC]

Hi the Uboot and Eboot size was 50x85 and 80x135


Andy

[oldflagswanted]

RKF info ???

...I read in one of the other post on here that flags
made by Plutzar & Brull K.G., Bielitz O/S are suspect.
...tell me if a Kriegsmarine flag has to have the eagle
with 'M' below ...50 x 85 "was definately used for U-Boats"

Hello Ohms931:
WAF "wmtf" thread t=427262, lists and shows good & bad
examples. A study of photo details in that thread will help
sort out period vs. modern made flags & some pennants.
KM eagle-M stamp is a factory inspection mark that the flag
meets sea service construction requirements - sometimes
a flag can have sea service sewing, but lack an eagle-M stamp.
However, IMO there is no shortage online or at shows of WW2
period made flags having the more desired eagle-M mark.
.......... OLDFLAGSWANTED .........
(below) from WAF t=542070 and previously elsewhere...
RKF size #12, 450x750cm, over 10Kt, Battleship (Bismarck 50Kt)
#11, 400x670cm, over 10K tons, B-Cruiser (Prinz Eugen 14Kt)
#10, 300x500cm, 1500 to 10K tons, Cruiser (Leipzig 8.4K tons)
#8, 200x335cm, 1500 to 10K tons, Destroyer 3Kt & Cruiser 8Kt
#7, 150x250cm, 500 to 1500 tons, (note U-Boat pole too short)
#6, 100x170cm, 500 to 1500 tons, DE-Torpedo Boat 900 tons
#5, 80x135cm, up to 500 tons, U-Boats and E-Boats, KM tugs
#3, 50x85cm, up to 500 tons, U-Boats 900t, E-Boats 120t