Deutschland erwache standart... woodwork find

[Ken N]

Here is something we don't see every day. This recently came from the vet's son. Too bad that the vet had left the other components where he found them. But it is nice to know that there is still some quality stuff out there. I thought I would post the photos here. I hope you enjoy the pics.

It had been in a damp basement so there is some staining caused by the red bleeding into the white portions. I had thought to seek out a flag conservator or something to see if the stain can be removed but then thought I will leave it as it. Let the next owner decide if he wants to go that route.

[J. M. C.]

Wow it's great to see items like this still surfacing. It is a shame about the condition.

[oldflagswanted]

the real thing ???

...This recently came from the vet's son.
...vet had left the other components where
he found them. ...I had thought to seek out
...if the stain can be removed but then thought
I will leave it as it. ...

Hello KN:
The "real" thing, ~$100K more & you'll have rest.

(below) My DE is on the right, and further below behind AH.

[avis plumb]

Very cool

BTW - Where will you be posting this for sale; e-stand or do you have a web site?

[Adam S.]

Amazing quality on these pieces. I'm sure that it will clean up nicely.

[J. M. C.]

BTW - Where will you be posting this for sale; e-stand or do you have a web site?

Yes please do tell.

[Ken N]

Yes please do tell.

Actually, I haven't thought of that yet. Still sort of enjoying the novelty of having it around.

[oldflagswanted]

DE prices ???

Actually, I haven't thought of that yet. Still sort
of enjoying the novelty of having it around.

KN:
Maybe $30K to 50K USD for just the DE cloth banner, but a
ballpark figure as such item prices are always subjective,
sometimes lower or higher depending greatly on the venue
and who the buyers and sellers are. There are some DE sales
examples with prices previously posted on the WAF. DE prices
can vary greatly depending on the number of parts included, or
if just the cloth banner alone, and the condition of same. See
---> http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=377844
OFW
PS/ Congrats on the DE addition to your collection.

[Richard P]

I hope there is a way to safely clean the color bleed out of the white. It is a great piece...congratulations!

Richard

[behblc]

That is a lovely find.
Saw some footage a few nights ago Adolf, walking around a presentation of standards, holding the corner of "The Blood Flag" ( please correct me if I am wrong ) , and whilst a bearer followed him with it he in turn imparted something of this flag to the others which he held in turn.
An odd fellow " Adolf"...... this Roman type Standard another expression of a very odd and brittle personality.

[oldflagswanted]

reality & fantasy ???

I hope there is a way to safely clean the color bleed
out of the white. It is a great piece...congratulations!
Richard

To try to "clean the color bleed out" is not what I
would recommend, as ~80 year old silk is fragile IMO.
OFW

That is a lovely find.
Saw some footage a few nights ago Adolf, walking around
a presentation of standards, holding the corner of "The Blood
Flag" ...whilst a bearer followed him with it he in turn imparted
something of this flag to the others which he held in turn. An
odd fellow " Adolf"...... this Roman type Standard another
expression of a very odd and brittle personality.

Indeed he was trying to impart "The Blood Flag" dead
martyrs fantasy mojo to the new DE standards of his minions.
As for "Roman type standard(s)", I wouldn't mind finding an
ancient example to add to my own pantheon of same, both
real and theatrical. Likewise, now getting my mojo dose by
watching "Combat" live on Me-TV Sacramento as I write this.
OFW

...............

[jh-ss44]

Even if the materials were "stronger" type , major pain to clean it up , & the results won't be to your liking ,for the effort put in. will be a hard time to sell ; depending on price.
you know how it goes on the forum..... "you actually thought about spending your money on that ?? , save your money & buy one you don't have to mess with. ",ect., ect.
Still ,a nice find !! I would have been happy to find that flag (as is ). jeff

[oldflagswanted]

Ditto that ...

Even if the materials were "stronger" type , major pain
to clean it up , & the results won't be to your liking ,for
the effort put in. will be a hard time to sell ; depending
on price. you know how it goes on the forum..... "you
actually thought about spending your money on that ?? ,
save your money & buy one you don't have to mess with.
",ect., ect. Still ,a nice find !! I would have been happy to
find that flag (as is ). jeff

Ditto that, especially the part about being "happy",
as rare to find in any condition, few having survived WW2.
Have never seen one taken by the Russian except SS-LAH.

[Arran]

There's nothing wrong with having it cleaned by a professional textile conservator- I've had 200 year old silk embroidery samplers with much the same kind of damage professionally conserved with amazing results!

[oldflagswanted]

cleaning results ???

There's nothing wrong with having it cleaned by a
professional textile conservator- I've had 200 year
old silk embroidery samplers with much the same
kind of damage professionally conserved with amazing
results!

Interesting to hear you have had positive results,
as color bleeding and mildew stains can be difficult.
OFW