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    RAD Standard

    I just got this flag out of the woodwork. Can anyone tell me something about it? Is it considered a flag or a standard? Notice the heavy embroidered wreath. What level unit would have used this flag? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Barry
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    #2
    Gorgeous flag,I`ve seen it in numberous Rad photos.I`d imagine it`s just a flag.I wonder why the fringe doesn`t go all the way to the edge.Looks several inches short of the edge.Unfinished maybe?I don`t see any sign of a way to attach it to a pole.Maybe OFW can explain this.(ya know he knows)

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      #3
      That's the nice part about this flag - it hasn't been cut. The left edge was wrapped around the pole and then attached by tacks I presume (Luftwaffe standards for example were attached this way).

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        #4
        RAD Fahnen ???

        Originally posted by garyv View Post
        Gorgeous flag,I`ve seen it in numberous Rad photos.
        ...wonder why the fringe doesn`t go all the way to the
        edge. ...Maybe OFW can explain this....
        Ditto that, very nice even with some stains. A unit
        trooped fahne, often seen with commemorative name
        in upper corner, those being of greater collecting value.
        As already mentioned these were pole wrapped & nailed.

        (below) RAD unit fahnen with commemorative names.
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        .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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          #5
          OFW,i am considering buying a RAD flag ,bright colors,no stains,2 or3 pencil end holes ,3x3 tear in red field ,un-cut ends with steamers ...can you give me a ballpark value?also fring is all there ,ec

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            #6
            Great RAD flag, very ornate and original IMO!!!! Johnno

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              #7
              I plan to list this flag on the estand for $1,200.

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                #8
                RAD unit flag prices ???

                Originally posted by mrec27777 View Post
                OFW,i am considering buying a RAD flag ,bright colors,
                no stains,2 or3 pencil end holes ,3x3 tear in red field,
                un-cut ends with steamers ...can you give me a ballpark
                value?also fring is all there ,ec
                Hello ec:
                I seem to recall a moth damaged example recently
                sold quickly on the WAF e-stand for around $300 USD.
                Others in better shape I've seen retail at $750 to $1K,
                and named examples for as much as $1500. So price
                seems to depend greatly on the seller, and the venue.
                OFW
                (below) recent e-stand sold mothed RAD flag.
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                sigpic
                .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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                  #9
                  Hello OFW,

                  great flag. Might be of interest for you:
                  this flag with the honour-name was first mentioned as granted to an Abteilungsfahne in March 1941 for the unit 3/282 in the Arbeitsgau 28, Franken with its headquarters at Würzburg.

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                    #10
                    the flag from post 4: translation "patron" Peter Vischer the eldest

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                      #11
                      actually, the Meister Peter Vischer der Aeltere translates to Master PV, the elder. Vischer (1455-1529) was a master bronze founder who worked in Nuernberg.

                      RAD unit honor names were often those of master artists, poets, and other figures of historic importance in the field of arts and literature. They represented the highest standards of Germanic craftsmanship. As opposed to war heros and NS martyrs, their relevance to the RAD was in their cultural contributions throughout German history through their labor.

                      The selection of a honor name often had a regional component as well. This was intended to inspire pride in and awareness of local artisans and region's cultural significance. Vischer represented Nuernberg (Bavaria), also the site of the Reichsparteitage. Here there's a connection of Germanic past and Nazi present. He is a logical choice for this area. It could also be this RAD unit had a connection to specialty metal work.
                      Last edited by paulj; 07-04-2011, 12:30 PM.

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                        #12
                        I guess that about 1,300 of such honour-names were granted. So, the
                        use is quite common within the RAD.

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                          #13
                          My impression has been that the named flags were issued and the ones that turn up without names were unused.

                          All the ones I've owned over the years that were without names did not show any signs of use, like nail holes in the skirt portion.

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