who made the flags ???

[oldflagswanted]

During WWII several firms in Germany made flags, here is a list of
some I've observed from actual flag markings, as posted on the WAF.
Please feel free to add more examples with confirmation photos (*).
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1. Berliner Fahnenfabrik Geitel & Co Berlin, *OFW (mostly RKF's)
2. Fahnen Hoffmann K.G. Berlin, *OFW observed
3. Bonnerfahnenfabrik Bonn (often used sewn label), *OFW
4. Johann Liebieg & Comp Reichenberg Sudetenland, *OFW
5. Houe Augsburger Kattunfabrik Augsburg, *OFW
6. G.A. Frohlichs Sohn A.G. Warnsdorf Sud., *OFW
7. Lorenz Summa Sonne Oberkotzau, *OFW, (mostly Gosch flags)
8. Bernard Richter Fahnenfabrik Koln, est.1864 (BR logo), *OFW
9. Lazarett Munchen Dachau, *OFW (tag with SS logo)
10. Ritto-Werk Loh Gmbh, *OFW
11. Christophorus Josephus von Loh, *OFW
12. LOH (alone unknown maker name/location), *OFW (most RKF's)
might be #10 or #11?
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Known fakes: (**)original flags from these makers not yet observed
Fk1. Plutzar & Brull K.G. Bielitz O/S, *OFW (SS Lager and RKF's)**
Fk2. Kurt Brautigam Plauen Vogtl landeskreis, *OFW (SS Lager)**
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Many WW2 period flags were made on Singer sewing machines,
the company suspended sewing machine production to take on
weapons manufacturing both in Germany and America. Factories
in the US supplied the famous Norden bomb sights, M1 Garand
rifles, and M1911 pistols, products used to smash the 3rd Reich.

[oldflagswanted]

Singer machines made US flags too

Singer machines were also used to make flags during WWII in the USA. See
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425414

[blutundehre]

All Plutzar & brull kg o/s rkf are fakes?

[rhudspith]

All Plutzar & brull kg o/s rkf are fakes?

No, originals are commonly found, a good one is shown here for example http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=421749

[blutundehre]

No, originals are commonly found, a good one is shown here for example http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=421749

Thanks Rob,
My heart was pounding out of my chest. The way it came across in OFW's post was that originals from this maker have not yet been observed. Thanks for putting me at ease.
Dave

[oldflagswanted]

first update, anyone have more ???

...a good one is shown here for example http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=421749

rhudspith:
Thanks for the WAF referral link, indeed a "real" RKF, now #13.
Again, feel free to add more examples with confirmation photos (*).
--------------------------( first update )------------------------------
1. Berliner Fahnenfabrik Geitel & Co Berlin, *OFW (mostly RKF's)
2. Fahnen Hoffmann K.G. Berlin, *OFW observed
3. Bonnerfahnenfabrik Bonn (often used sewn label), *OFW
4. Johann Liebieg & Comp Reichenberg Sudetenland, *OFW
5. Houe Augsburger Kattunfabrik Augsburg, *OFW
6. G.A. Frohlichs Sohn A.G. Warnsdorf Sud., *OFW
7. Lorenz Summa Sonne Oberkotzau, *OFW, (mostly Gosch flags)
8. Bernard Richter Fahnenfabrik Koln, est.1864 (BR logo), *OFW
9. Lazarett Munchen Dachau, *OFW (tag with SS logo)
10. Ritto-Werk Loh Gmbh, *OFW
11. Christophorus Josephus von Loh, *OFW
12. LOH (alone unknown maker name/location), *OFW (most RKF's)
.....might be #10 or #11?
13. Plutzar & Brull K.G., Bielitz O/S, *rhudspith WAF link, (RKF)
14. Wurttembegische Cattunmanufactur Heidenheim a. Brz., *OFW
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Known fakes: (**)original flags from these makers not yet observed
Fk1. Plutzar & Brull K.G. Bielitz O/S, *OFW (SS Lager**)
Fk2. Kurt Brautigam Plauen Vogtl landeskreis, *OFW (SS Lager & RKF)**
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....... OLDFLAGSWANTED .......

[Niblet]

OFW,,thanks for another informative thread!

[Ewan S]

OFW thats a great pic of the women sewing the banners up

[RUHL13]

OFW, how about a sewn on tag...does that count?
Measures about 33" x 19"
Regards,
Gary

[rhudspith]

#6

6. G.A. Frohlichs Sohn A.G. Warnsdorf Sud

on a 80 x 135 Gosch Flag

[rhudspith]

#13

13. Plutzar & Brull K.G., Bielitz O/S

on a 80 x 135 RKF

[oldflagswanted]

2nd update, count now 15

OFW, how about a sewn on tag...does that count? Measures about 33" x 19" Regards, Gary

RUHL13:
Interesting 1st pattern RKF example with unusual narrow rope
often seen on recent fakes, but this one is real by material and
screen printing details, and a nice sewn on makers tag, now #15.
Again, feel free to add more examples with confirmation photos (*).
--------------------------( 4-6-10 update )---------------------------
1. Berliner Fahnenfabrik Geitel & Co Berlin, *OFW (mostly RKF's)
2. Fahnen Hoffmann K.G. Berlin, *OFW observed
3. Bonnerfahnenfabrik Bonn (often used sewn label), *OFW
4. Johann Liebieg & Comp Reichenberg Sudetenland, *OFW
5. Houe Augsburger Kattunfabrik Augsburg, *OFW
6. G.A. Frohlichs Sohn A.G. Warnsdorf Sud., *OFW
7. Lorenz Summa Sonne Oberkotzau, *OFW, (mostly Gosch flags)
8. Bernard Richter Fahnenfabrik Koln, est.1864 (BR logo), *OFW
9. Lazarett Munchen Dachau, *OFW (tag with SS logo)
10. Ritto-Werk Loh Gmbh, *OFW
11. Christophorus Josephus von Loh, *OFW
12. LOH (alone unknown maker name/location), *OFW (most RKF's)
.....might be #10 or #11?
13. Plutzar & Brull K.G., Bielitz O/S, *rhudspith WAF link, (RKF)
14. Wurttembegische Cattunmanufactur Heidenheim a. Brz., *OFW
15. Fahnenfabrika A. Dreyer Hildesheim gege. 1881, *RUHL13, RKF
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Known fakes: (**)original flags from these makers not yet observed
Fk1. LOH (alone in box), *OFW (SS Lager with dot size)**
Fk2. Kurt Brautigam Plauen Vogtl landeskreis, *OFW (SS Lager & RKF)**
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....... OLDFLAGSWANTED .......

[blutundehre]

Does someone have pics of the Plutzar & Brull RKF fakes ? I am curious to see it.

[oldflagswanted]

Fk2 fake ???

6. G.A. Frohlichs Sohn A.G. Warnsdorf Sud
on a 80 x 135 Gosch Flag
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13. Plutzar & Brull K.G., Bielitz O/S
on a 80 x 135 RKF

Nice photos, thanks for adding them. #13 is not
used on a fake, that was first list error, should be as now
listed on Fk1/2, used on a fake SS Lager with the dot size -
same dot size fake marking on the Fk2 RKF shown below.
......... OLDFLAGSWANTED .........

[blutundehre]

Nice photos, thanks for adding them. #13 maker
is likewise used on a fake SS Lager but with the dot size -
same dot size fake marking on the Fk2 RKF shown below.
......... OLDFLAGSWANTED .........

In post #1 it shows Plutzar & Brull fake ss lager and rkf's, I see the updated list shows only ss lager. I was going off the list in post #1, that is where the mix up was, sorry.
Dave