Can anyone tell me about SA 3/52. which should be from Berlin.
Bob Hritz
Bob Hritz
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SS copied SA designations so I'd assume 3.Sturm of the 52.SA-Standarte (or SA Standarte 52 if earlier). Sturmbann would be Roman numerals, Standarte and Sturm were Arabic. -
Yes Mark, you are correct. I must hab having a dislexic day.
Bob HritzIn the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
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I don't have a Standarte 52 listed for either Berlin/Brandenburg or Niederrhein (the 2 groups using black). Laurens has different records than I so perhaps he'll be able to find some info.
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Has anyone found any further information on the SA sturmfahne? It was never used as the rings were never attached. It is in mint condition with aluminum fringe around 3 sides.
I believe there was a a 52 SA Standarte out of Prague, but I don'r know what patch color they would have used.
Bob HritzLast edited by Bob Hritz; 10-24-2011, 03:40 PM.In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
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1935: Standarte 52 was officially listed at the SA-group of Ostmark, located at Cottbus;
Was as such in 1936 and 1937 and did NOT exist at Berlin-Brandenburg.
Since about 1942 there existed also an SA-Standarte 52 at Prag, the SA-group of Sudeten, but they did not use the color black but blue-grey.Comment
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Ostmark used pinkish-red, as far as I know.Comment
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Hello Mark,
I checked SS, my official address-list from October 1937. Then there was not an SS-Standarte with that number. If later, I do not know. I have quite a lack of SS lists and adresses from later years.Comment
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Thank you all for the help. I am totally lost on this flag. I have attached an overall photo showing the aluminum fringe.
The patch is definately black, with white numerals.
Bob HritzIn the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
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It's possible that this is a Muster or sample that would have been provided by the RZM to the maker. Hats, etc were supplied to makers as models for what the finished product should look like. It could be a piece that provided a similar purpose that used a non-existant Standarte number as an example.
It could also be that the Standarte existed briefly, ordered flags and ceased to exist before the flag(s) could be delivered, although in that case I would think that the corner patch would be changed to accomodate another order.
Either would account for the unfinished state (without rings or other hanging method) and unused condition.Comment
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