Any Idea? Paratroop? ???

[CarJon]

Vet bring back and I don't have any idea...

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[CarJon]

Close up:

[oldflagswanted]

about a DTC pennant ???

...I don't have any idea...
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<center>Hello:
How about Deutsche Tourenwagen Challenge, a former German touring car racing series? Just a guess? </center><center>OldFlagsWanted</center>

[CarJon]

This was a WWII bring back, was the Touring Challenge active in the 40's?

CarJon

[oldflagswanted]

...more about your DTC pennant ???

This was a WWII bring back...CarJon

<center>No swastika, so I doubt that the DTC pennant is from the Nazi era?
But I don't collect pennants anyway, but like the larger hand embroidered
unit flags, from any nation or period. So as I said I am just guessing about
what the DTC lettering means - bird does look though like it is speeding
horizontally along in some kind of a race?
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[Al P]

The bird looks like he was hit by a car rather than being in a race

Al

[Gregory Koepp]

my guess is that it has something to do with transportaion of some kind? airlines/air races/some type of plane? i think if it was for car's they used more cars/wheels/track designs??

so thats my guess,,,

greg koepp

[Jeffrey Magut]

I think that it refers to pigeons, as that bird seems dove-like. Since pigeons are Tauben in German, DTC could be Deutsche Tauben ...? something. Just a guess. Jeffrey

[CarJon]

I think that it refers to pigeons, as that bird seems dove-like. Since pigeons are Tauben in German, DTC could be Deutsche Tauben ...? something. Just a guess. Jeffrey

Pigeons? That is very interesting... you are right it does look like one...

Maybe it is a pennant belonging to Himmlers secret pigeon division?!?

From the BBC:


Nazi-trained homing pigeons were the target of British covert operations during WWII, it has emerged.

Scores of lofts of the message-carrying birds were pinpointed by MI5 agents in 1940 across Belgium, West Holland and the Balkans.
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 8px; HEIGHT: 28px" cellSpacing=3 cellPadding=3 width=8 align=left border=0 HSPACE="2"><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle bgColor=#cccccc></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>The airborne threat was believed to be the pet project of SS chief Heinrich Himmler - who was known by British intelligence as an avowed pigeon fancier.

Under interrogation, captured "German pigeon personel" told how the birds were a vital component of Hitler's plans to invade Britain.
<!-- GENInlineIMAGE --><TABLE cellSpacing=3 cellPadding=3 width=150 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD> <SMALL>Himmler: President of the German National Pigeon Society</SMALL>





</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>The MI5 report on the phenomenon, released with a batch of wartime secret service documents this week, said: "From these prisoners of war it was learnt that it was anticipated that the birds would be used to convey information obtained by short-term pre-invasion agents."
To counter the menace, MI5 tamed and trained its own crack force of peregrine falcons, with the aim of felling incoming pigeons.
According to documents now held at the Public Record Office in Kew, London, at least two of the captured pigeons became "prisoners of war".
Displaying humour in the midst of adversity, an intelligence officer marked in his report: "Both birds are now prisoners of war working hard at breeding English pigeons."

The new Army Pigeon Service Special Section birds of prey were used to set up an airborne net over the Scilly Isles early in 1942 following sightings of pigeons disappearing towards France.
<!-- GENInlineIMAGE --><TABLE cellSpacing=3 cellPadding=3 width=150 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD> <SMALL>Falcons managed to capture two prisoners of war</SMALL>





</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>The MI5 report notes Britain's new anti-pigeon force would patrol for two hours at a time over the islands off the Cornish coast.
It says: "This was a great success. The falcon flying high above the Scillies could watch not only a part of one island, but the whole group, and any pigeon flying over them would be attacked."

Agents had found that the Nazi party had taken control of all pigeon lofts in Germany after it assumed power, while Himmler had ordered the use of pigeons by his own Gestapo security police.
The British document notes: "It is said that Himmler, who has been a pigeon fancier and enthusiast all his life, is the head or president of the German National Pigeon Society.
"And he has brought his enthusiasm for pigeons into the Gestapo, who are said to use this form of communication both in Germany and in the occupied countries."

Intelligence officers also investigated ways in which pigeons were deposited in the UK. They believed some were carried in by individuals, and that some were dropped off in baskets by high-speed E-Boats and submarines. Dropping pigeons by parachute was also identified as a possible method of their entering the country.


But on a serious note... I like the pigeon idea.... Also on the yellow seam, it was split from top to bottom, so my guess it was on a thin rope or a stick....

I will have to search more...

CarJon

[CarJon]

Here is the latest, let's zoom in and find an answer....

Yes it is a pigeon, this is from From the Vice President of VDT, Verband Deutscher Rassetaubenzüchter; The German National Pigeon Association : (Forgive his english, my German to him was probably the same )


this is the picture of flag from a pigeon club which is responsible for flight pigeons.

This club doesn´t a member of our association VDT.

Please look to the internet and contact direct the club.

Thank you and best regards

Uwe Wenzel

Vice-President

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So far I have not turned up anything else...

CarJon