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    MYSTERY RADIATOR BADGE or PENANT FINIAL ID HELP PLEASE...

    Hello folks. An estate find from a while back...no history with it, but most certainly of German (pre-WWII I'd presume), origin. Has abbreviated "Gesetzlich Geschuetzt" markings on the rear of the base along w/ a symbol of some sort. It's non-magnetic, so I'm going to assume the base metal is most likely brass w/ a nickel plating. Central design of spread-winged eagle, flanked by what appear to be the Fraktur letters "N D V"..I'm of the opinion that the "D" = Deutsche and "V" Verein / Verband / Verwaltung, etc, but am at a bit of a loss otherwise as to what possible organization this could've represented. Its' not especially large, measuring just 3 1/2 inches in diameter. Any help id'ing this guy would be appreciated. A few snaps to follow...
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    Last edited by Milton; 03-12-2020, 01:17 PM.

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    Imo ...

    Originally posted by Milton View Post
    ... German (pre-WWII I'd presume), ... Central design of
    spread-winged eagle, flanked by what appear to be the
    Fraktur letters "N D V".. not especially large, measuring
    just 3 1/2 inches in diameter. Any help id'ing this guy would
    be appreciated. ...
    Hello Milton:
    IMO, looks like a German National People's Party
    auto fender flag pole top. See the following info link.
    ........OFW

    (below) German National People's Party (NDV) modern logo.
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    .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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      #3
      Originally posted by oldflagswanted View Post
      Hello Milton:
      IMO, looks like a German National People's Party
      auto fender flag pole top. See the following info link.
      ........OFW

      (below) German National People's Party (NDV) modern logo.
      I do not know. The N and D seem to be capitals as the V is a smaller one. The eagle looks as for the Coburg-clan (Nationaler Deutsche Automobilklub), the automobile-club for Stahlhelm-members.
      I cannot find any club with these letter abbrevation.
      About the 1930's existed:
      Nationaler Deutscher Automobilklub;
      Nationaler Deutscher Berufsfahrer-Verband;
      Allgemeiner Deutscher Autombil-Club;
      Automobilklub von Deutschland;
      Deutscher Touring-Club

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        #4
        Thanks for the feedback gents. It does make sense that it could well be related to the DNV...an interesting and most likely little known political organization. I’m personally of a mind that it most likely isn’t related to an automobile club, but will continue to research further. Many thanks again for the responses!

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          #5
          It's actually "AvD" for Automobilclub von Deutschland founded in 1899. The logo, aside from the font, is practically the same today.
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          Last edited by paulj; 03-15-2020, 03:10 PM.

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            #6
            Great answer - bravo !!!

            Originally posted by paulj View Post
            It's actually "AvD" for Automobilclub von Deutschland
            founded in 1899. The logo, aside from the font, is
            practically the same today.
            paulj:
            Nice to know. Thanks.
            OFW
            sigpic
            .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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              #7
              Sure looks like it! The printed Fraktur is easier to recognize as an A without the solid background metal of the ornament which made it look like an N to me....Many thanks for the feedback!

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                #8
                Originally posted by Milton View Post
                Sure looks like it! The printed Fraktur is easier to recognize as an A without the solid background metal of the ornament which made it look like an N to me....Many thanks for the feedback!
                I misjudged the A, which I saw as an N. The badge is indeed for the Automobilclub von Deutschland and shown in a list of official badges.
                The AvD headquarters (Genealdirektion) were at Berlin, Leipziger Platz and had about 50,000 members in about 1930. The club-colors were black-and white/red
                (information from the "Stahlhelm-Kraftfahr-Handbuch" from 1930). The Avd possibly was a member from the "Reichsarbeitsgemeinschaft der Fahrzeugbesitzer-
                Verbände Deutschlands", but did not belong to the "Ring der Nationalen Kraftfahr- und Luftfahrtbewegung"
                Last edited by wilhelm Saris; 03-17-2020, 04:36 AM.

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                  #9
                  Thanks again gents. Now I’m wondering if my emblem dates from the pre or post-war period? Any way to tell by its configuration alone? Thx again!
                  Last edited by Milton; 03-18-2020, 07:35 AM.

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