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    Dual code 1942 BCD/AR K98 sniper for discussion

    Greetings,

    Im being offered this K98 with a ZF41 scope and tin and I have a few questions for general discussion.

    I have several concerns.

    Is this a Russian import? How can I tell?

    I know some "folks" have put the ZF rail on a common K98 to bump the price up.

    How can I tell if it was born a sniper?

    Id did a bit of research and found that the BCD/AR is not common but not crazy rare either. From what I found they only had that code in 1942. Is that true?

    If legit and born a sniper.. what else should I look for to ensure it has not been messed with?

    Anything to look at on the scope itself? I know the Yugos built them after the war

    thanks for any info

    I will get better pics if someone tells me what to zoom in on..


    Cheers J
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    Hard to say based on the pictures, but I can tell you several things.

    1. BCD/AR is a legit code for the ZF41. Many faked examples are from firms that never manufactured the ZF41 platform, like DOT.
    2. What about the rest of the rifle as far as numbering? If it is a RC rifle, there are typically very few, if any parts that have the same original serial numbers on them. The Russians frequently 'forced matched' (read electric penciled) 'matching numbers on to the major components like the bolt, bands ad floorplate. The stock was typically stamped with the 'matching number' on the left rear of the butt. The number used to 'match' the rest of the rifle is the receiver number.
    3. That stock looks unusual to say the least. The Russians also frequently added a 'dip' that is often very dark brown-black to the metal rifle parts and a shellac of sorts to the wood to preserve it. Your stocks finish unfortunately does not look original.

    If you've had it apart, you can look to see if the numbers in the stock barrel channel/handguard match. When you have it apart, look closely at the heat treatment of the barrel to the zf41 sight base. Recent work will typically be very evident. Same thing with the cutout on the stock to accommodate the scope rail on the left hand side. The coloring on your stock looks off, meaning it may be difficult to tell if the relieved area is original or recently done.

    Closeup pictures of the metal parts and numbering of the wood and metal components will be your best indicators.

    ~Dan

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      #3
      Stock is sanded and refinished. As noted above more detailed photos are needed to really tell you anything

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        #4
        Close ups of the scope base with the scope taken off are needed.
        This is a sharpshooters rifle, not a sniper. Just sayin.

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          Here are some more pics

          Anything else to zoom in on?
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                Hey folks,

                I did find out that this K98 is a mismatched gun. I will go see it in person this weekend. Anything specific to look for when I have it in hand? Import stamps?

                How does that affect the current value?

                Since it has the scope/can and was born a sharpshooter rifle is this a 1500 or a 2500 example?

                Higher? Lower?

                I know the ZF4 scopes with the can do bring big bucks. A standard K98 is in the 400-600 range but this was born with the rail.

                Shoot me a PM or post here.

                thanks

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                  Originally posted by Jumper View Post
                  Hey folks,

                  I did find out that this K98 is a mismatched gun. I will go see it in person this weekend. Anything specific to look for when I have it in hand? Import stamps?

                  How does that affect the current value?

                  Since it has the scope/can and was born a sharpshooter rifle is this a 1500 or a 2500 example?

                  Higher? Lower?

                  I know the ZF4 scopes with the can do bring big bucks. A standard K98 is in the 400-600 range but this was born with the rail.

                  Shoot me a PM or post here.

                  thanks
                  With these photos how can you be sure it was born with the rail?

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                    That is a good question

                    Any experts out there that can share some tell tale clues to know if it was born with the rail?

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