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    Ammunition question - P08 P38 MP40?

    While reading Mike Ingram's book on the MP38/40 I read that P08 pistols used 115 grains ammunition. This same ammunition was also the standard for the MP38/40. I remember reading elsewhere that P38s used 124 grains ammo. Now I wonder why they used different types instead of just one?

    Also can you confirm if the P08 used (or were meant to use) 115 grains?? Also I'd like to hear your opinion on MP38/40 ammo? Were they meant for use with 115 grains?

    I'd love to hear your opinions on what they did "back then" and even if you have made personal experiences?
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    P08.

    I have yet to read in any dated material from WWII period if the used 115 grain or heavier 124 grain ammo.
    However, I can tell you from my own personal experience, that the MP-40's seem to refer the heavier ammo, such as the 124 grain. The 115 grain stuff does okay as well, with maybe ccassional stoppages related to possibly the lighter bullet. Much of stoppages can be traced back to magazines, though. Some magazine, such as 98E maker marks don't work well in a lot of weapons.
    Certainly, "hot" ammo should not be used it these weapons.
    Hope this helps .

    -Andrew

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      #3
      Thanks for your comment. I were mainly interested in what they did "back then", but it seems noone really knows for sure? Anyway I only use 124 grains in P08 & P38. I have yet to try a MP38/40 . But standard 124 grains should be good? Thanks.

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        Originally posted by P08
        Thanks for your comment. I were mainly interested in what they did "back then", but it seems noone really knows for sure? Anyway I only use 124 grains in P08 & P38. I have yet to try a MP38/40 . But standard 124 grains should be good? Thanks.
        I have a full automatic MP40 and 124 grain bullet works great.
        When you go home
        Tell them for us and say
        For your tomorrow
        We gave our today

        --Inscription in the 5th Marine Division cemetery,
        Iwo Jima 1945

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          #5
          German Ammo

          Hello,

          I am not an expert in this area but will pass on as much info as I know. If anyone else knows something please jump in.

          I believe the 115 grain bullets were for the luger when they first came out and that they had more of a cone shaped head. I have seen some pictures of these rounds before but could not give you a date or anything. I also think that the reason they used these was that the Luger had such a steep feeding ramp from the Mag to the Chamber that normal Parabellum rounds would often jam. I think that they solved the problem because they did come out with the 124 Grain bullets and that is what I have fired through some of my friends lugers.

          As for the MP40, I have never fired one since they are now illegal to transport up here in Canada (But for a select few, they can still own them) so I can only go by second hand knowledge. From what I have heard 124 grain works the best.

          I think if you stick with 124 Grain bullets you will be just fine. Just stay away from any milsurplus along the lines of actual ww2 german 9mm because the steel rounds are really not to good for the barrell.

          Hope this has helped

          Cam

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            #6
            Thank you. So 124 grains are correct for later Lugers. Good. And 124 grains also goes for the MP38/40. Very good.

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              #7
              I had some truncated cone P08 ammo - early dated stuff, and it was 124 - 125 grain bullets. The WW1 dated and 1920's dated P08 ammo I had was also 124-125 grain bullets.
              I have found varying weights ( Most below 120 grains ) on WW2 P08 bullets due to the germans use of steel 'fillers' to replace lead , and of course the sintered iron bullets which will shoot out a bore oin a vigorous day's shooting.

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