US Military Shotguns

[Von Lessel]

I have just watched 'The wild bunch' as I am doing some 'research' ( )uhaumm-ok not the best place but entertaining) on the 'Punitive campaign.'
My question is what was the shotguns that they were using in the film?

Ok I know they were probably wrong/later model in the film, but what was the military issue shotgun of that period and up to the 1st World War?
I seem to remember that Colt made a lever action? Did they make a pump? Did Remington make military issue pumps?

Your knowledge and any pics would be much appreciated.

Lee

[Bill Grist]

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I have just watched 'The wild bunch' as I am doing some 'research' ( )uhaumm-ok not the best place but entertaining) on the 'Punitive campaign.'
My question is what was the shotguns that they were using in the film?

Ok I know they were probably wrong/later model in the film, but what was the military issue shotgun of that period and up to the 1st World War?
I seem to remember that Colt made a lever action? Did they make a pump? Did Remington make military issue pumps?

Your knowledge and any pics would be much appreciated.

Lee

Winchester Model 1897... Plenty of fake US military shotguns out there... BILL

[GEBIRGS-JAGER]

Shotguns

Hi Besides M-97's they also used a Winchester M-12.Winchester made the lever action shotgun a model-1889 10 or 12 gauge. Arnold used one in Terminator2.Stevens also produced a military shotgun. Brian

[Gene]

What's a Model 1897 shotgun with bayonet worth? I know someone who has one, and the bayonet is the long (17"?) variety dated 1917 and has the scabbard.

[coastie]

A question about the Winchester. Is it a solid frame? there are web sites if you look that will give serial number ranges of winchesters. I have one but the barrel was missing, replaced the barrel but can't get the head spacing right . also have the vented sleeve w/bayonet lug.

There have been Remington 870 used in the service but not with vented sleeve/lug

Ithaca made a riot/trench gun w/sleeve bayonet lug.

Model 1897 were good guns but the bolt had a tendency to kick back my father-in-law has a scar on his right cheek from that, he was lucky.

Have it checked out by a competent, key word, competent gunsmith not Joe Bubba down the street.

[Roy Queen]

In a local pawnshop, I've found a Stevens Model 629 shotgun with US ordnance stamps on it. The asking price is $800.00. I'm not up to date on military shotguns, but I'm reluctant to pay that for one.

[Von Lessel]

Thanks guys, I'll have to start searching round for some info and pics on the web. You never know might find one hidden in some old boys cabinet over here in blighty (I wish ).

Lee

[DaveG]

You can find a concise overview of the shotgun as used in WWI in Bruce Canfield's U.S. Infantry Weapons of the First World War. He devotes a chapter (pages 131 through 144) to the shotgun. Many pictures and information on markings, etc. I also seem to remember that there was a book written in the last several years dedicated to the military shotgun perhaps published by Collector Grade Publications?

Original examples are pricey. I looked for several years without finding one that I was confident in. Seems like they were asking over a $1,000 several years ago.

Best Regards,

Dave

[Von Lessel]

Thanks Dave I'll keep my eyes open in a couple of good book shops I know. Also check Amazon?

Lee