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**JensF.** · 03-16-2005, 11:02 AM

Stamps #5: "U" with crown and prussian eagle. Several of them are on the stock.

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**JensF.** · 03-16-2005, 11:03 AM

Stamps #6:

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**gew98** · 03-16-2005, 09:27 PM

Jens ; the stock on your rifle is not german at all.It's actually a brazilian 1908 mauser contract stock. Those are not "prussian" proofs. Also note by teh rear sight in barrel channel the filled in slots that were clearance for the handguard springclip retainers. I have seen these stocks used on gew98 'restorations' , as well I have actually seen two such stocks on original 1920 - 1930 peroid wehrmannsgewehrs. It's obvious the barrel on your gew98 has been removed and one reinstalled form a different rifle as the old serial still visible is upside down and there is no 7,9 bore mark.
The "S&S" mark on th ebarrel is a mark found on many gew98 barrels denoting manufacture by JP Sauer. Sauer was contracted as were many of the non german privately owned gew98 manufacturers to produce such things as rifle barrels in quantity to allow the government arsenals to concentrate more energy on the labor intensive manufacture of bolts & receivers.

**daisycutter416** · 03-17-2005, 06:48 AM

Hi, it is deactivated by FN (Fabrique nationale d'armes de guerre, Herstal, Belgique) in the old method. That's what those two stamps with the "flame" and the "lion" means, the "L" in the circle means Liége (Luik) and is an inspection-stamp.
Regards.

**JensF.** · 03-18-2005, 04:43 PM

Many thanks for your help and identifcation of the stamps! I payed 180 Euros for this rifle. Was this price OK?

**JensF.** · 03-18-2005, 04:46 PM

Is it possible, that these contract stocks were confiscated in 1918 to be used for german rifles because they were running out of wood/stocks? I know that from bayonets from foreign contracts (I think Thailand for example) which were confiscated to replace the heavy losses of material in the last months of the war.

Originally posted by gew98

Jens ; the stock on your rifle is not german at all.It's actually a brazilian 1908 mauser contract stock. Those are not "prussian" proofs. Also note by teh rear sight in barrel channel the filled in slots that were clearance for the handguard springclip retainers. I have seen these stocks used on gew98 'restorations' , as well I have actually seen two such stocks on original 1920 - 1930 peroid wehrmannsgewehrs. It's obvious the barrel on your gew98 has been removed and one reinstalled form a different rifle as the old serial still visible is upside down and there is no 7,9 bore mark.
The "S&S" mark on th ebarrel is a mark found on many gew98 barrels denoting manufacture by JP Sauer. Sauer was contracted as were many of the non german privately owned gew98 manufacturers to produce such things as rifle barrels in quantity to allow the government arsenals to concentrate more energy on the labor intensive manufacture of bolts & receivers.

**gew98** · 03-19-2005, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by JensF.

Is it possible, that these contract stocks were confiscated in 1918 to be used for german rifles because they were running out of wood/stocks? I know that from bayonets from foreign contracts (I think Thailand for example) which were confiscated to replace the heavy losses of material in the last months of the war.

Jens ; As a collector of imperial german rifles - the answer is NO in regards to use of non german pattern stocks on the gew98's being made or in service. As frugal as the germans were - especially in utilization of captured bayonets and ersatz patterns they did not do that with their issue rifles.The germans ran very short of cured walnut and went to Beech in mid 1916. There was no acute shortage of wood for stocks with the almost total change to kiln cured beech.Walnut continued to be used up until the end in limited quantities as it became available.
I have seen post WW1 8,15x46R wehrmannsgewehrs that utilized prewar contract mauser stocks/parts that manufacturers had in storage, but again NOT DURING the great war , or for the german government/military then or in the pre WW2 era.

**JensF.** · 03-19-2005, 12:45 PM

Thanks gew98!

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