Lafette 42 good FAKE!!

[Paul Ba]

I advise look at numbers, and you see here more clear the difference.

100% same fsu stamping for Lafette Trageriemen. I say very good try to fake stamp but perfekt? No.

See axx stamp on fire adjustment section, also fake but no good try here like the fsu.

[me6_130]

As I mentioned, Yugo reworked tripods might have mixed parts. It is possible that the two fsu parts are original and the fire control part could be Yugo produced,(the fact that it is blued makes me think so, as the original ones I have seen were painted). Other parts might also be Yugo produced, or not, but they should be studied in detail to confirm. There has been some attempt to mask the Yugo rework by covering the holes in the back closing part, repainting dunkelgelb and removing the optic base.

Carles

[Paul Ba]

Carles, sure possible. How do we explain same 100% stamp on leather strap? I think we find the same fake here.

[me6_130]

Yep, that is another thing that needs some study. They don't look good to me but leather straps with the same maker stamp doesn't mean those on the tripod are bad, just that some one copied the stamp.

Have a look at the articles by our member Bergflak, they are most interesting:

http://www.bergflak.com/lafette/Lafetteindex.html

Carles

[Grossfuss]

Lafette straps

Hi,

I think a pal of mine has boobed! He bought a pair of Lafette straps from Sauer Militaria on eBay.de - the number of the item was 152680684137 (but I can't call it up on that number).

The only marks are a Waffenamt eagle and WaAB41 on the lower part of the strap but the stitching is very poorly done and the hooks are like those on the parrotjabber straps with no small internal leaf springs as on a correct pair.

Is Sauer one of those names to be treated with caution?

Regards,

Grossfuss

[me6_130]

Hi,

I think a pal of mine has boobed! He bought a pair of Lafette straps from Sauer Militaria on eBay.de - the number of the item was 152680684137 (but I can't call it up on that number).

The only marks are a Waffenamt eagle and WaAB41 on the lower part of the strap but the stitching is very poorly done and the hooks are like those on the parrotjabber straps with no small internal leaf springs as on a correct pair.

Is Sauer one of those names to be treated with caution?

Regards,

Grossfuss

Here's a good link:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Wehrmacht-MG-...p2047675.l2557

Leather looks nicer than the Parrotjabber ones...but still they do look fishy. You are right about the stitching, hand done, and carabiner buckles look wrong to me. Did your friend pay that ammount for the straps

Carles

[Grossfuss]

Lafette straps

Hi Carles,

Well done - you've got 'em and I'm afraid to say that's what he paid. His limit was €800 and he was initially outbid but the winning bidder withdrew so they were offered to my pal.

I'd only heard about them over the phone and he was very pleased with them, then he sent me a link to the auction and the hooks don't look right to me. I have a pair of genuine straps stamped "eat WaAB22" and the hooks are very different - there is a thin leaf spring on the inside of the hooks to close them. I can't find them on Bergflak's site but on page 237 of Folke Myrvang's MG34/42 book in figure 255 you can just make out the small inner springs in the strap hooks.

Thanks for your efforts. Without treading into dodgy territory, there were some fake-stamped ex-Yugo Gurtfuller 34's on the market a few years back and I can't help thinking Sauer were mentioned in regards to them. I apologise in advance if this info is incorrect!

Regards,

Grossfuss

[Grossfuss]

Lafette straps

Any further comments to add anyone?

Cheers,

Grossfuss

[timg]

Hi grossfuss,

Re the laffete carry straps, I personally would ask myself where are the sweat marks soaked into the straps. We know the item is very heavy, and having been in the mob humping the gear as it were I know how much sweat you can ring out of the carry straps.

Leather goods need occasional care and attention and as far as I am aware the army forces issued a similar product to the british dubbin. The leather on the purchased straps looks very nice, but also exceptionally clean on the interior.

The lower section is exactly the area that your hands would naturally go to when on a long drag, no muck or anything to the inside.

Are they stiff and crispy like something out of storage?? don't look like it. Cant comment on the dealer as ive had no dealings

Regards

Tim

[Grossfuss]

Lafette straps

Hi,

The straps are described as unissued and I've been told they have never been bent, delivered straight.

That's not the issue - compared to a genuine pair the hooks are wrong and the stitching is very poorly done.

Cheers,

Grossfuss

[Paul Ba]

Clear the strap are fake! Sorry.

Seem many seller now listing these rubbish items

[Grossfuss]

Lafette straps

They're being returned!

[me6_130]

They're being returned!

I hope he gets refunded. I would say a fair price for lafette straps would be less than half he paid for those.

Carles

[Paul Ba]

Now again with new lafette! Fake paint and other part. Ebay name parrotjabber

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW2-Germa...zHFP:rk:1:pf:0

[phil337]

Now again with new lafette! Fake paint and other part. Ebay name parrotjabber

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW2-Germa...zHFP:rk:1:pf:0

what is fake about this lafette other than the paint that is claimed? i see nothing wrong with this one, the markings on the cradle and fire control are what you would expect to find on a late coded lafette, same goes for the late war wooden trigger assembly, correct bolt box... but i guess i am no expert......