MG 34 Stamp Mark

[mp409mm]

I am not arguing your theory, but I wish to understand one thing, the mark we are talking about was done before 1945, because if it was build up after the war by either the French or who ever I think they didn't had to mark them with a German stamp.
My 34 is not all matching so I knew it was reapaired and had been repaired from other part. So I think some repair was done by the Germans because of this stamp, there is also the possiblity that after the war as you said some army that got this 34 to keep it active changed/repaired the 34.
Alf

[me6_130]

Well, that is what I am saying. Till now those made up MGs I have seen were post war remade. Knowing your's was repaired during the war, it would be interesting to know what they did and if they remade the numbers, just because I would like to learn how they did it. I am not doubting your's was done during the war.


Carles

[mp409mm]

Well, that is what I am saying. Till now those made up MGs I have seen were post war remade. Knowing your's was repaired during the war, it would be interesting to know what they did and if they remade the numbers, just because I would like to learn how they did it. I am not doubting your's was done during the war.


Carles

Thanks, But it could be reworked after the war also, that is understood, now which was done during the war and what was done after is the question
I will take some pictures and post them
Alf

[jonathanseverin]

Well my best guess without seeing any extra pictures of the 34 is that this may well be a RC 34 that happens to have a bsw38 barrel jacket with that heers zeug stamp on it. If it is a very early 1938 bsw then it should be a 4 hole. Someone knew the rarity of the heers zeug stamp as it's been highlighter in white. All in all a very interesting 34, looking forward to seeing more pictures. Electro pencil serials would answer a lot of questions here.

Jonathan.

[mp409mm]

Well my best guess without seeing any extra pictures of the 34 is that this may well be a RC 34 that happens to have a bsw38 barrel jacket with that heers zeug stamp on it. If it is a very early 1938 bsw then it should be a 4 hole. Someone knew the rarity of the heers zeug stamp as it's been highlighter in white. All in all a very interesting 34, looking forward to seeing more pictures. Electro pencil serials would answer a lot of questions here.

Jonathan.

The highlighter of the stamp was done by me using chalk to get a better picture What is a 4 hole
I will get the pictures by this week if possible.
Alf

[me6_130]

A 4 hole refers to the front section of early MG34s had 4 holes in a line instead of 3, as later produced. This was changed because the hole pattern made the shrouds too weak with so many holes.

Carles

[mp409mm]

A 4 hole refers to the front section of early MG34s had 4 holes in a line instead of 3, as later produced. This was changed because the hole pattern made the shrouds too weak with so many holes.

Carles

Mine is a 4 hole.
Alf

[wandering38]

Carles, as you requested I'm posting photos of my mg34 built at the Posen depot in occupied Poland in 1944. I am also posting pictures of a k98 built around 1942 at the same depot to help show the markings applied by the depot. The "XXI" code is the numerical designation of the 21st military district. The depot proof mark is e/Psn2, indicating the 2nd facility in Posen. You will see the code and proof mark on both weapons. This mg34 is incomplete and demilled. (USA). The 34 is only serial number 99 and was built in 1944 after official production of the MG34 had been limited only to Brunn (dot code). It is the only one of its type I have ever seen, and it wouldnt surprise me if it is the only one of its type surviving. Given the late date and low serial number, there would not have been time or parts to produce many more before the Russians arrived. This is surely one of a very tiny number produced with parts on hand to create as many serviceable weapons as possible as the Soviets pressed hard against the Germans. The last picture is a map showing the WWII German Military Districts, their corresponding numerical codes, and the city in which they were headquartered.

[wandering38]

Here are some photos of other German depot codes on the small parts of a cocking handle for the MG34. These parts were made at the depots, and marked with these depot codes in place of a waffenamt.

[me6_130]

Good morning Wandering,

Thanks for those pics. These are the kind of things I like to see and learn of. They are certainly unusual. Could you post some more complete pics of the cocking handle? The MG shroud is, for sure, a Waffenmeister replacement part. I have seen a couple unmarked around the internet, but didn't manage to get any I not only collect MG34s and accessories but also spare parts. Knowing how the system worked when talking about repairing weapons is also very interesting.

Carles

[mp409mm]

Sorry guys for the delay.

Here are some pics I managed this morning, if you need anything particular, jus ask. Enjoy.
Alf

[mp409mm]

2 more

[mp409mm]

This is a couple more.
Alf

[mp409mm]

These are the last two of this set, as said if you need something particular , just ask.
Thanks
Alf

[Gromper]

[QUOTE=wandering38;7597612]Carles, as you requested I'm posting photos of my mg34 built at the Posen depot in occupied Poland in 1944. I am also posting pictures of a k98 built around 1942 at the same depot to help show the markings applied by the depot. The "XXI" code is the numerical designation of the 21st military district. The depot proof mark is e/Psn2, indicating the 2nd facility in Posen. You will see the code and proof mark on both weapons. This mg34 is incomplete and demilled. (USA). The 34 is only serial number 99 and was built in 1944 after official production of the MG34 had been limited only to Brunn (dot code). It is the only one of its type I have ever seen, and it wouldnt surprise me if it is the only one of its type surviving. Given the late date and low serial number, there would not have been time or parts to produce many more before the Russians arrived. This is surely one of a very tiny number produced with parts on hand to create as many serviceable weapons as possible as the Soviets pressed hard against the Germans. The last picture is a map showing the WWII German Military Districts, their corresponding numerical codes, and the city in which they were headquartered.

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Here is my XXI Posen Mg34, serialnumber 18.