WWII German ammo ID help please (2nd lot)

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the first two are wooden blanks and the third a dummy. The fourth bullet has me puzzled. Any ideas? Also, is the last bullet a dummy from an earlier era? Thank you, Brian

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Headstamp

Headstamp

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Red/green striped bullet headstamp

hlb S* 7 41

[me6_130]

hlb would be the maker Metallwarenfabrik Treuenbritzen GmbH, Selterhof. S* means the case is steel with brass cover...I believe. 7 is the production batch. 41 is production year. Now, the red ring at the joint of the case and bullet is the "tropicalized " seal so is the red ring around the primer. The green ring...I believe is for hard core AP.


Yep, the last round would be a training round made from a reused case, as it has 1 ring around the case. I think they could reuse them till 3 times.

Carles

[leondes]

I believe the green stripe means the round is an "improved" round. The box will have a "v" on it. It was developed to make the machine guns cycle faster. It used a tubular powder rather than a flake power.

I also believe the red ring around the primer means "AP".

Here is a link to one that I have: http://lmd-militaria.com/page0099.htm

Regards, Leon

[racefiets]

The red ring around the casemouth is an extra sealant for tropical use. (auch für tropen)
The last round is also a blank but dated 1918.

[CanadianAR]

Yup.
2 wooden bullet blanks.
1 exercise cartridge
1 tropical armour peircing improved. (-v) typically meant for aircraft machine guns.

Primer annulus seal
Red is Smk = AP
Black is PMK= API
Green is Ss= Ball

Corresponding case mouth seal for tropical.

Black tip would be Tracer.

So in German coding this cartridge is
SMK-v fur tropen

And S* means Brass case.

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Thank you!

I'm learning! Thank you to all who have taken time to respond. Brian

[Bob in OH]

Kent published a great book on German ammo... 1918-1945. While it's out of print, but you may find a copy on the loose. I have found two, and passed the second on to my son. If you find one, buy it ... regardless the price... it's that good.

[CanadianAR]

I've heard the Kent book is good but a little dated and no colour. Being from a younger generation, I prefer colour hahah. Either way this book contains all kinds of coo info regarding German ammo. How to identify, history and development, etc etc.
it's only in German though so you need to use an English supplement. But the great photos make up for it!