I was offered this Luger, possibly a Kreighoff. I assume it would only be worth something for its parts. Someone ground off the serial number and markings. Should I make the guy an offer? I would not intend to keep it if there is any parts value.
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Last photo, it's all I have.Comment
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I think 100% illegal to own.
do not buy it.
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Holster
The fellow also an Ortgies .32 cal in this holster, which I thought looked odd. Any comments on it?Comment
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Holster inside
I assume a late war holster?Comment
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I was offered a 1936 S/42 that the local sheriffs dept wanted to sell but it only had the frame and receiver serials ground off . All other markings were good and it was a 95% gun . They didn't notice this and the deputy in charge of selling the guns was not happy when their holy grail was junk . The dealer buddy of mine that called me in took it apart completely and cut the frame and receiver apart and that made it legal to sell . Just parts then . I bought it and it worked out very well but it was MUCH NICER than this one and nothing other than frame and receiver were screwed up . This one has much more wrong with it . YES it still has value but a detailed assessment of all parts would be in order first . If it was offered to me I would simply cut the frame and receiver apart and use it for parts . Pretty sure it was Legacy that just parted out a Krieghoff on epay and they did Ok . I was expecting it to do better but it was not a nice gun to start with . Nor is this one . Your call and if they want to cut it and you don't want it give me a shout . DaveOriginally posted by dan h View PostComment
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Only thing that would need to be destroyed is the frame. That is the only part that is considered a firearm.Comment
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Don't know the legal whatnot about it but the reason they cut the receiver on the one I bought was the thing was still a fully functional firearm without the frame assy . This was done by the sheriffs dept and a very savvy dealer . Again I don't know the legal details - just how they did it . Besides who in their right mind would buy a receiver with numbers and proofs ground off ? JMHOOriginally posted by Svt40 View PostComment
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Hell ya!Originally posted by Gimpy117 View Postseconded. Ground off serial numbers are a HUGE no no
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Where I live, that gun would be worth 5-10 years imprisonment.Comment
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The frame/receiver is the legally-defined firearm here in the US; on a Luger it's the bit piece with the grip and trigger guard. The cannon on a Luger is not the "firearm" here in the US and a lack of serial number there is a non-issue.
IIRC, it wasn't until the 1968 Gun Control Act that all firearms had to have a serial number, so plenty of pre-1968 firearms are out there without serial numbers and they're perfectly legal. That said, the las also clearly states that it's unlawful to possess any firearm that has had its serial number removed.
Moreover, dan h isn't showing us the front of the frame so we can't see if there's a serial number on it or not. If the frame has a defaced/removed serial number, strip all parts, dispose of the frame, and sell the remaining parts. The cannon is missing the serial number, which relegates it to shooter condition, as is the same with the front toggle. Speaking of that front toggle,
dan h, I'd hazard a guess to say that you're holding the remains of a Krieghoff Luger - very, very desirable. Even Krieghoff parts can bring decent money. Krieghoff grips by themselves will bring several hundred dollers. Head on over to Jan Stills' Luger forum ( http://luger.gunboards.com ) or the Luger Forum ( http://forum.lugerforum.com/ ) and see what the experts say before you do anything rash.
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