1940 Mauser Luger Navy rig out of the woodwork

[Johnny Peppers]

rajko84,

Beautiful photos of your Navy! Looks great outside.

[1933 FORD NUT]

Dave,
Not all of us have that book, so can you maybe post the pictures of those pages, so we can all see it? Thank you
I posted the pics of the front strap for you.

Pics are from Jan Stills Book " Third Reich Lugers " . Excellent book and I recommend it to all ww2 luger collectors . I will say I am not and have never been a collector of Lugers that have post production markings on them . Many do like them and would be better at looking yours over as the " N 5070 " was definitely added after production . That said the new pics look much better . Still seems odd the finish is that bad over THE MOST IMPORTANT marking on the gun . I am ever cautious with any Luger that has a post production mark or markings on it that significantly increases it's value . Been at this a while and like I stated before I am in the same area as one of the major fake " ARTISTS " . The fake 1916-1918 Navy's came from this area and for any that know about these they are HARD TO TELL .

Pics are Jan Stills info NOT MINE and again I recommend the book to all luger folks .
You be the judge on the info but it seems yours is out of the range put forth . Again I am not a student of post production marked Lugers so others need to chime in on this . Thompson Knox used to be about the biggest Navy luger fan I am aware of . He is the main guy with NAPCA and is in St Louis . Sorry about questioning your find but isn't that what this place is about ? Dave

[1933 FORD NUT]

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[1933 FORD NUT]

and more .

[Ronnie Fry]

Here is a 1938 S/42, s/n 77m with Navy marks

[1933 FORD NUT]

More pics of " M " suffix 1938 S-42 navy marked Mausers . I like odd serial #'s and one , two and 3 digit #'s are always interesting . Add the double sevens and you have a dandy . The luger in the book cover pic is serial # 1234 . Not as nice as I like them but the neat # trumps that .

[1933 FORD NUT]

Couple more . Again this is from Jan Still's " Third Reich Lugers " and is not my info . I DO RECCOMEND THE BOOK THOUGH AS IT IS FULL OF EXCELLENT DETAILS . Dave

[rajko84]

Dave,
Can you please post first 3 pics that you posted, without the flash, so I can read it. Thank you so much for your help.

[rajko84]

Dave,
Ok I was able to read most of it, but new pics would help. I can see that N 5070 is not in known list. Only thing I can add about this I know where I got this one from. All other weapons that I got out of family were right as rain. And if somebody was trying to fake it, they would do it in known range I would think.
That would be smart thing to do. So maybe this one is the unknown one which can be added to the list.

[1933 FORD NUT]

Dave,
Ok I was able to read most of it, but new pics would help. I can see that N 5070 is not in known list. Only thing I can add about this I know where I got this one from. All other weapons that I got out of family were right as rain. And if somebody was trying to fake it, they would do it in known range I would think.
That would be smart thing to do. So maybe this one is the unknown one which can be added to the list.

Hope you're right and you probably are . Notice one all the way up in the " r " suffix !!!! Luger chasing if nothing else teaches restraint and caution and to be OPEN MINDED . Goggle 1940 42 code navy luger and you will see more including some obviously bad ones. Dave

[1933 FORD NUT]

Should have said " w " suffix instead of " r " . My hope is that someone that knows more current info on these would pick the ball up . Pretty sure there is a list of these around with many more listed . Some collectors live and breathe this kinda stuff and I would think some watch this forum ?!!? These pics do it ? Dave

[1933 FORD NUT]

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[rajko84]

Thank you Dave.

[tharpo]

In the book, The Mauser Parabellum, by Hallock and Van de Kant on page 214 they state, " During mid 1940, the Kriegmarine abandoned the policy of placing property numbers on Mauser Luger pistols. The North Sea Station with -N- property numbers appears to cease this practice during the -i- suffix of the 1940-42 production. The last reported Mauser 1940-42 North Sea Station property number was N5076 and was assigned to 1940-42 number 5779i".
The Luger in this thread would therefore be one of the last Lugers given an -N- property number.
In addition, I have a spare Luger magazine Sn 5533i with property number N5039.

[rajko84]

In the book, The Mauser Parabellum, by Hallock and Van de Kant on page 214 they state, " During mid 1940, the Kriegmarine abandoned the policy of placing property numbers on Mauser Luger pistols. The North Sea Station with -N- property numbers appears to cease this practice during the -i- suffix of the 1940-42 production. The last reported Mauser 1940-42 North Sea Station property number was N5076 and was assigned to 1940-42 number 5779i".
The Luger in this thread would therefore be one of the last Lugers given an -N- property number.
In addition, I have a spare Luger magazine Sn 5533i with property number N5039.

And we have a winner
Thank you sir.