Luger Stock

[Haaving]

I have been offered this Artillery Luger. Its an DWM 1917 production.
It comes with the stock. I know there is alot of repro stocks, but is this one of them? If it is, whats the value?
I really hope it is original. All opinions are welcome.

[Alfred.R]

i like your stock vote for a period original

[Nick Komiya]

I have doubts. Originals have a crown stamped into the wood to the left of those 4 screw holes, but this seems to be missing on yours.

[Haaving]

I have doubts. Originals have a crown stamped into the wood to the left of those 4 screw holes, but this seems to be missing on yours.

If it is a reproduction/fake one. Would not that stamp be the most obvious thing to put on it?

What I mean to say is if someone would make a reproduction and try to sell it as an original, that stamp would be one of the top 3 things to put on it!

After some investigation it looks like that stamp was NOT put on every stocks made, just some made in a specific time period.

[lugar05]

I am not sure there are many luger stocks that have been reproduced , this one looks origanal and period there was a very large luger collection sold here in utah and yours appears to coencide with known origanals
Nick

[geefal]

There are Luger reproduction stocks, but this one does look original to me. Hi to everyone :-) First post but, this is one of my areas of collecting and the metal just looks "right" for a period stock. After a while you get a feel for these and I would be quite comfortable with this one. I have been wrong before, but this one looks good.

[Nick Komiya]

If you want to talk about ease of faking, bear in mind that the stock is the easiest thing to fake from the rig, as not even the leather tab is left on the stock. The presence of leather makes proper aging of fakes almost impossible. An easy to fake item that doesn't properly cross the Ts and dot the Is should be treated with caution until proved original. Yes, there are fakes that have a crown stamping added, but what I had seen so far was far from what the original stamp looks like. However, if you want to argue that the absence of the stamp makes it more credible as an original, and a very rare one at that, as most original Luger stocks are marked, I bow to your optimism.

[herd118]

If you want to talk about ease of faking, bear in mind that the stock is the easiest thing to fake from the rig, as not even the leather tab is left on the stock. The presence of leather makes proper aging of fakes almost impossible. An easy to fake item that doesn't properly cross the Ts and dot the Is should be treated with caution until proved original. Yes, there are fakes that have a crown stamping added, but what I had seen so far was far from what the original stamp looks like. However, if you want to argue that the absence of the stamp makes it more credible as an original, and a very rare one at that, as most original Luger stocks are marked, I bow to your optimism.

The "I bow to your optimism" just made my day, thank you.

[nickn]

original stock probably not from a german contract so no stamp

[SPQR]

Do you know what cost this today on the market?
Regards

[lew07]

Another vote here for original

[me6_130]

I'm no expert in these but the stock looks old to me.


Carles

[Haaving]

Do you know what cost this today on the market?
Regards

I dont know, but they are not cheap. However. This one is for sale. I am open to any offers.

[Alan Smith]

I'm thinking that the stock was unused inventory at the end of WWI, later sold onto the surplus market in the 1920's as was so much other left-over WWI "Luger" material. Being unused inventory at the time WWI ended, it was never accepted by the Imperial German Army inspectors (which is evident by the lack of military acceptance stamps on the wood or metal). Also, the stock iron is not numbered to the gun (as it would be if DWM factory-fitted to a LP08). Further, the stock has never had leather attached to it (check out the "pilot" holes drilled for screwing the leather to the wood; they have never had screws in them and there is no "halo" where the leather would have been screwed tightly against the wood for many years).

Thus, looks like an original WWI-era LP08 wooden stock, but one that was never factory-fitted to an LP08.

[Nick Komiya]

Now we seem to be getting realistic in assessing the item.