MG42's help sought with these...

[robs]

Hello these are two MG42's I have lined up but I appreciate your help.

The first MG42 has Manufacture Code 'dfb' and is dated 1943 (Gustloff Werke).

The second is 'swd/nc' (Maget), from 1945.

Please tell me what you think. Sorry for lack of pictures at this stage but I'm after something original with no Yugo parts.

Thanks again.

[robs]

2

[robs]

MG42 - number 2.

[robs]

3

[Patty D]

The dfb looks to have a yugo m53 buttstock. Also is missing it's rear aa sight.

The nc is also missing the rear aa sight and has post war grips. Both look to be yugo used and are refinished, with the gun numbers stamped onto the top covers which isn't original. Not ones I would go for if you are after all an original parts example, as more parts will most likely be post-war as well.

Hope that helps

[NORDLAND1]

i am the same opinion like Patty D.
i mean the bipods from the NC-cra and 1943-dfb are possible yugo parts.
we need more pics to say more details.

NG NORDLAND

[629classic44]

Hallo

Orignial WWII MG 42's where never stamped with the serial number on the deckel.

Originals have 5 wires wrapped around the stock and not six.

here some foto's of an original MG 42 DFB (at least i think)

Greetings

[robs]

Thanks for the help. So can yugo stocks have any number of wires, I have been advised wires range from 5 to 8...

And does a wartime German stock easily fit on as a replacement?

[My66coupe]

Thanks for the help. So can yugo stocks have any number of wires, I have been advised wires range from 5 to 8...

And does a wartime German stock easily fit on as a replacement?

I agree with the opinions above. The stocks on both appear to be Yugo. The serial number being stamped in the top cover was also done by Bundeswehr post war for the MG1s (hybrid 308/8mm). Yugo stocks usually have 6 wire wraps. The one you posted has 8??? As you can see in the picture of the other 42, the stock has more of a shark fin shape. The yugo stocks have been known to look like an "elephants foot" in comparison. If you wanted to place a correct war-time stock on either of those, you would also need to obtain a correct german buffer. The thread pitch is slightly off and when mounting a german buffer on a yugo stock, which will lead to poor fitment and a gap.

[My66coupe]

Here's a great sticky from the 42 site. It shows you the differences in buffers and the gap it creates when you mix-match.

http://www.mg42.us/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=1688

[robs]

Does anyone have a clue why these grips are silver? Are they worth replacing?

[me6_130]

Does anyone have a clue why these grips are silver? Are they worth replacing?

Silver gripplates might be aluminium post war Czech production. You can find them on some MG34.

Carles

[robs]

Thanks. Unfortunately I'll have to part with one of these.

Is there one which I should let go, based on value, desirability or rarity?

'dfb' and is dated 1943 (Gustloff Werke).
'swd/nc' (Maget), from 1945.

Thanks again.

[bmg17a1]

Couple observations. The aluminum grips are post-war. Early 42s had the serials on the topcovers. One of the live, registered MG42s that I own is an early '42 dated slabside cocking handle example with the serial on the topcover. Other parts are also numbered. I have examples of WWII wire wrapped stocks with as few as three wire wraps up to six. Post-war wire is different thickness and can vary in the number of wraps, but as noted the design and quality of the post-war Yugo wood stocks is very different than wartime making them identifiable.
Many Yugo parts are stamped with a 2 in a square which clearly identifies the source.
Wartime parts are drying up in the US, so more and more often registered 42s offered for sale here have Yugo parts. Many ownsers don't recognize Yugo parts in their guns, also, so they get passed on in vintage guns.
Construction of semi-auto 42s has taken a big bite out of vintage parts in the US making parts more and more scarce. Even MG1 and MG3 parts are drying up. Too bad!!

[blamers]

Mg42

It's a very nice MG42.

The problem is they are very difficult to find right now....

How much will be the value at this moment ?

In Europe how much Euro ?

In USA how much $$ ?

I don't see any on shows here in Europe , only Yugo's.

I've seen on original for 3 years ago for 3800 Euro.