420 KZ. Patr.43 m. E.

[RED LION]

got this box today but unfortunately it s empty
but a nice eye catcher for display

[RED LION]

[ChrisCook]

Patr. 43 box

That's cool! I have several 7.92mm and a 9mm, but I hadn't seen one of these!

[Dufleuve]

Very nice box ! Also have a few 7,92 and 9mm, but that one is really rare.

Good catch.

[Hans Zeug]

Another box.

Hi, here is my cartridge box, similar to yours. Regards David.

[pitfighter]

Very cool - I have several in 7.92X57 but never seen one for Kurz - nice!
Seems great condition, too.


I think I may have one box of live for it, the bottom one in the pile, correct?
Don't you love it when vendors put their price sticker on the label!
(Sorry dull pic, overcast today.)

[RED LION]

HEY DAVID
i think this is the brother of mine

[k98]

Nice piece

Again red Lion Congratulations for another great find !

[Hans Zeug]

Brothers!

HEY DAVID
i think this is the brother of mine

Hi,brothers seperated at birth maybe! Couple of boxes shown. Regards David.

[ra.berg]

7.92x33 fva box

I believe the 1945 fva box has not an original label.
Until now I never saw 15 box labels from 1945 only 420 rounds on battelpacks(Packhülse 88) and wooden crates(Patronenkasten 900) with 1260 rounds and 2100 rounds.

[k98]

the same lot?

My friend !

I have another with the same label !

Its really old, and smells old too!

[ra.berg]

1945 fva boxes

Hallo K 98

this is an misunderstanding.
Sure the labels on the shown battelpacks (Packhülsen 88) are all original.
I want to speak about the little 15 box 1945 fva 13.

I believe that this is a fake.
First there are mistakes in the print.
Second the paper looks no good and the label is to little.
The normal fva label are a little bit bigger 55 x 25mm than the order in the VtL 22x 52 mm but never smaller).
I add the page frome the VtL (Vorläufigen technischen Lieferbedingungen from 1942) and some fakes.

Norbert Berg

[ra.berg]

1945 fva 13 boxes

I add some fakes ( the print is without mistakes) from 1945 fva 13 boxes .

The box with the Zdh. ak 175 is a total fake box (code ggk 4) and label.
The box with the Zdh, faa 747 is original with Code lkc usual for fva but the label is new.

Norbert Berg

[k98]

Good to know

I have one of this:

The box with the Zdh. ak 175 is a total fake box (code ggk 4) and label

Its unused and it has inside the ggk 4 code, the fakers are improving their thecnics sadly...............

Thanks for the input !

[Willi Z.]

Interesting thread, with some great sleeves as well!