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    #1

    P.08 totenkopf holster

    Hi everybody,
    I think it's a period death head stamped into the flap.
    No other proof on it
    Not a WW1 type holster.
    Opinions are welcome.
    Thank you in advance
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      #3
      I believe it's authentic. No reason to doubt this one. These holsters do exist and are seen in period photo's worn by SS men. I like it.

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        Originally posted by Jerry Burney View Post
        I believe it's authentic. No reason to doubt this one. These holsters do exist and are seen in period photo's worn by SS men. I like it.
        Hi,

        Do you have such a pic, would be interesting.

        best regards

        Otto

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          #5
          It's interesting that this holster was manufactured in 1926 or later. This seems to rule out the possibility that these Totenkopfen were Freikorps markings.

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            #6
            Hi Otto,

            Here is a link to a previous discussion about that stamp.

            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=totenkopf

            Regards, Leon

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              #7
              Otto, You can find pics at the link Leon posted.

              Don, Yes..you are correct. These are not Friekorps but SS.

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                #8
                super rare holster!

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                  Leon, Thank you for the link

                  regards

                  Otto

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                    Originally posted by Jerry Burney View Post
                    I believe it's authentic. No reason to doubt this one. These holsters do exist and are seen in period photo's worn by SS men. I like it.
                    Agreed. As with SS G/K98 variations authenticity is dependent on much more than just a deaths head marking. Devils in the details.

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                      Originally posted by donmaus View Post
                      It's interesting that this holster was manufactured in 1926 or later. This seems to rule out the possibility that these Totenkopfen were Freikorps markings.
                      With all due respect I am curious - what if any precedent exists in terms of marking Freikorps firearms and/or their holsters with Totenkopf to even question the period of the subject holster?
                      Last edited by sszza2; 08-24-2013, 10:20 AM.

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                        Originally posted by sszza2 View Post
                        With all due respect I am curious - what if any precedent exists in terms of marking Freikorps firearms and/or their holsters with Totenkopf to even question the period of the subject holster?
                        Quite a few Imperial-era P08s are found with TK markings on their chambers. While many are probably fakes, some are thought to be genuine. It is known that many early Weimar-era Freikorps units adopted the TK in their symbols so some have speculated these may be Freikorps markings. I am not aware of any definitive evidence that refutes this. The fact that the TK was used by the SS does not prove that it was not also used by the Freikorps to mark weapons. However, I do not pretend to be an expert in this area and will welcome convincing corrections.

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                          The new Görtz/Sturgess book devotes a couple of paragraphs to the Totenkopf markings both on the pistols and the holsters. They don't quote sources, but indicate a shipment of WWI P.08 pistols and holsters were so stamped in the 1960's in Hamburg before shipment to the U.S.

                          I agree with their assessment that the large number of fakes degrade any original, if such a thing exists.

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                            It is very regrettable that the Görtz & Sturgess book fails to reference sources for many of their pronouncements. This is one of several instances that leaves the reader uncertain regarding something presented as "fact" by the authors.

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                              Their exact words are "is known to have been marked." I would think that since they printed this in that manner they are not the only ones to know it, and it didn't rate the time to go into great detail on the matter. I know that I had read it previously, but couldn't tell you where.

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