I have just added what is below about live rounds for the Mauser 1918 T-Gewehr anti-tank rifle to another thread and may as well add it here also in the hope that it might be of interest and provoke a bit of discussion,
Chris
Chris
Originally posted by 90th Light
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I have been asked today why my live round sold for such a price ??? 
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The reason is because it was not a regular AP round. Thus we really need to see the head stamp on the one shown at the start of this thread.
Plus I have put members wrong with what I stated which is quoted above. The rarer than hens teeth date is October 1918 not September 1918. Although September 1918 does not turn up every day especially still loaded.
Answering some other questions, the reason I have quoted US1000 for a live round dated "October 1918" is because there is no known loading for October 1918 (10). Why this should be is not known.
The rare, very expensive rounds are other loadings than the normal AP round. There is an SmK tracer, a PmK incendiary and an S.Pr type incendiary. It is most likely that these loads were for the TuF (Tank und Flieger) machine gun being developed at the end of the war. There is also what is referred to by some collectors as a T67h/s and reloaded rounds which are indicated by a dot beside the month of manufacture.
Some debate continues as to just how rare or common around dated November 1918 is. Outside of Germany, they are hard to find but they do turn up in Germany and some believe that production with this date continued after WW1 ended. However, there is no proof of this. Any round dated April 1918 is also considered a good find because this is the first dat of official production and these were all used up at the time especially for training and practise.
In the 1930s the Germans used this round as the basis for various developments and manufactured it again as stated above. Several countries started using the gun post-war including Sweden and China, and they also made the ammunition.
When Britain was developing the Boys anti tank gun (then still called the Stanchion gun) they reloaded old German ammo and obtained new cases from Sweden to develop the AP bullets and study the ballistics,
Chris (courtsey & adapted from what "Tony E" wrote on another forum on this subject).
. The reason is because it was not a regular AP round. Thus we really need to see the head stamp on the one shown at the start of this thread.
Plus I have put members wrong with what I stated which is quoted above. The rarer than hens teeth date is October 1918 not September 1918. Although September 1918 does not turn up every day especially still loaded.
Answering some other questions, the reason I have quoted US1000 for a live round dated "October 1918" is because there is no known loading for October 1918 (10). Why this should be is not known.
The rare, very expensive rounds are other loadings than the normal AP round. There is an SmK tracer, a PmK incendiary and an S.Pr type incendiary. It is most likely that these loads were for the TuF (Tank und Flieger) machine gun being developed at the end of the war. There is also what is referred to by some collectors as a T67h/s and reloaded rounds which are indicated by a dot beside the month of manufacture.
Some debate continues as to just how rare or common around dated November 1918 is. Outside of Germany, they are hard to find but they do turn up in Germany and some believe that production with this date continued after WW1 ended. However, there is no proof of this. Any round dated April 1918 is also considered a good find because this is the first dat of official production and these were all used up at the time especially for training and practise.
In the 1930s the Germans used this round as the basis for various developments and manufactured it again as stated above. Several countries started using the gun post-war including Sweden and China, and they also made the ammunition.
When Britain was developing the Boys anti tank gun (then still called the Stanchion gun) they reloaded old German ammo and obtained new cases from Sweden to develop the AP bullets and study the ballistics,
Chris (courtsey & adapted from what "Tony E" wrote on another forum on this subject).
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