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    An uncommon Carbine-French Berthier 1892

    Just picked this up the other day, kind of outside of my collecting realm, but here it is...unfortunately someone slapped some polyurethane (that's what it looks like) on it at some point. Will look better once I get that removed. Chris....
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      French Carbine...

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        Last for now...if anyone has had real good success removing Poly share your secrets.... I'll be googling for more info tonight, but looking for ideas....
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          i have one of these. i call it frankenstein because the stock has so many pieces added in for repairs. i notice there are a few on yours too. i just find it interesting the amount or repairs to the stocks on these. homer formbies makes a polyurithane remover. wal mart under furnature stripper. best of luck. mine lost the front stock fitting with the stacking rod fixture, some time before i got it.

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            I've always used denatured alcohol and 0000 steel wool for poly removal. Just take your time and don't go crazy with the steel the wool.

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              Although yours has had the cleaning rod channel filled in as was normal for the 20s French arsenal modifications on these....what is very unsual is that it seems to have been fitted with a front band that has both the stacking bar and a "bow" loop for the cleaning rod.

              Generally these 92 carbines came with a cleaning rod...but NO stacking bar so in the 20s the bar band was added and rod (and channel and rod band w/o the stacking bar) was removed.

              I have seen only one other one (Mle 1892) with the cleaning rod AND the stacking bar..and that one I own. I have heard that they were special made for a French unit fighting in eastern Europe during the war (maybe with the Serbs?), but I do not know. I do know that the combo is rare as I have been checking these for 30 years..mine was made in 1914 and has had no modifications.

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                Mle 1892

                Thanks for the info Phil! Very interesting....to be honest when I saw this I had to "google" it to get an idea of what I was looking at...but it struck a chord with me....

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                  Originally posted by ChrisCook View Post
                  Thanks for the info Phil! Very interesting....to be honest when I saw this I had to "google" it to get an idea of what I was looking at...but it struck a chord with me....
                  Chris,

                  I would be intersested in knowing the date on this one if you can find it. I think that it is on the left side of the receiver or left side rear barrel area...I can get mine and find out for you if needed.

                  Also I wanted to be clear when I said "fitted" with the unusual front band....I meant it was (IMO) factory fitted with that band and not modified later with such a band.

                  I wish that I could be more help with the poly stock finish removal....I have dealt with it on modern commercial firearms and it is very tough to disolve in my experience....but try the denatured alcohol and maybe acetone if that does not work.....or the stripper they said was designed to remove it....but I would recommend as you are suggesting that it be chemically removed if possible...minimize any abrasive if you can.

                  The metal looks good on it....better than many on these that a see...which really is not that many!

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                    Berthier

                    Hi Phil, right hand side of the receiver is marked, MA C1901, so 1901... I'll post some more pics up over the weekend. Chris...

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