.22 Caliber Sturmgewehr 44

[ValhallaMilitaria]

Okay- I want one now.....just as a wallhanger.

I have one and am very disappointed with it to say the least. Fresh out of the box, and at a mere 10 yards, it shoots 3 feet low!

The yardage increments go from 10 to 100 yrds. I did not have to adjust the windage on it as it shoots dead center, but I am highy disappointed with it hitting so low. I had to set the sights at 70 yards before I was hitting center of mass at 10 yards and that just won't do.

After this poor showing I went online and found one field test report and the fellow had the same exact problem with the one he had purchased. I then found another complaint on a firearms forum where the exact same problem was being reported as well.

The one saving grace is that these rifles will accept the H&K 91/G3/CETME/MP5 scope mount so I have been using it to shoot with until I decide how to proceed with it's repair.

I contacted the distributor 3 times (once by mail with no response), and twice by phone as I want to speak with their gunsmith before I send it in to them but I still haven't been able to make contact with him. They just say to call back to receive a shipping control number and then send it back for repair. Before I do that though I want to know exactly what it is they plan to do to it!

Regards,

Chuck

[vonStubben]

Try siting at 5, 10, 15 20 and 25 yards and see what the impact point does. Sometimes with high sites like this you get a significant arc to the bullet path. We see this with MP5's. Close in you hit low, around 25 feet you are on target and further out you start going over the target so you learn to compensate. Just a thought.
JAndrew

Thanks for the input.

Just to set the record straight and without any intended "bravado", I have been shooting since age 4 and was an expert marksman as a U.S. Army infantryman. I also have an extensive background in gunsmithing as well.

I have done all the above and when I went to the range to dial in the scope for this rig I was shooting first at 25 yards with iron sights with the same effect discussed in my first post. I understand all of the mechanics of the problem but don't want to void my warranty by doing the work myself. I guess I'm just going to have to send it in to them and if I don't like what they have done to it when I get it back I'll demand a replacement.

One word of caution regarding the magazines though. The magazine "lips" are fairly brittle and will break easily. I made the mistake of using some cheap "wildcat" ammo that was about 10/15 years old that I had stored with all the other munitions I have and the shell case rim exploded (a first for me) breaking off the furthest forward portion of the left lip (nothing else was damaged by this). The magazine still functions fine but replacement mags are $40.00 a pop. I also read where a fellow dropped his which he damaged in the same fashion and location.

[JAndrew]

Charles,
I hope my sophomoric advice did not offend, I have no idea on this site what the level of firearms knowledge one may have. Unlike driving a car, one does not seem to have to have any basic knowledge base to own a firearm in the U.S.

I am sorry to hear of the magazine problems (and cost) as I would like to purchase one of these as a "plinker" which means it may not always get the gentlest of use.

I guess I'll be doing some test firing before purchasing so thank you for the "heads up" on the accuracy issues.

All the best,
JAndrew

[vonStubben]

Charles,
I hope my sophomoric advice did not offend, I have no idea on this site what the level of firearms knowledge one may have. Unlike driving a car, one does not seem to have to have any basic knowledge base to own a firearm in the U.S.

I am sorry to hear of the magazine problems (and cost) as I would like to purchase one of these as a "plinker" which means it may not always get the gentlest of use.

I guess I'll be doing some test firing before purchasing so thank you for the "heads up" on the accuracy issues.

All the best,
JAndrew

I took absolutely no offense to the advice you offered at all and tried to be diplomatic in my response without trying to sound like a know it all etc. I really do appreciate your involvement and willingness to share.

[vonStubben]

Bob,....did you shoot yours over the weekend?

[Bob Hritz]

Hopefully tomorrow morning.

Bob Hritz

[STG44]

I shot mine over the weekend. Put close to 400 rounds through it. No real issues, a few failures to feed but that was a couple rounds hanging up in the magazine. It was about 6 inches low at 25 yards but grouped nice, adjusted the elevation on the rear sight for now. I'll probably take a little metal off the front sight next time. Fired some Remington, Federal, CCI, and some sub-sonic rounds.

[petopoint]

Ammo

Thanks for the ammo tip STG44. I'll use your recommended ammunition when I get the chance to 'live fire' the one i picked up last month. (Of note) A friend of mine has been out plinking with his and claims to have to have had no issues.

[DennyB]

I wonder if these are selling well enough for the manufacturers to consider making these in a higher caliber, say 9mm?

[Svt40]

I wonder if these are selling well enough for the manufacturers to consider making these in a higher caliber, say 9mm?

Any caliber higher than .22 and it will not be allowed to be imported due it's "non sporting nature"

[OScaton]

It will become true one day. Let's waiting together.

[nsdap collector]

Gun Show GSG ATI SG44

Hey Everyone,
I was able to handle one of these a couple of weeks back at a Dallas gun show. I am not any type of expert marksman nor do I have tons of knowledge. You can just say I admire the original gun for its beauty and performance.
The 22cal version looked fantastic to me but it did have a hefty weight. The dealer was from Dallas but I don't have his info on me right now. I will try to get management(wife) to get it for me for Christmas. I view it like this...looked great to me and actually is a firing gun that can still be used and not just sit in my war room.
I'll take one and hopefully they will produce the mp40.
Kevin

[Roger-Der Jager]

Greetings All, first post on forum, have been logging on and reading for awhile, thought it was time to join and post.

In regards to the ATI Stg 44(22 long rifle), I bought one around the 1st of November, this year. Always have been a fan of all WW II weapons and history, alot due to the fact my Dad, two of his brothers, and two cousins served. Dad and one of the cousins were the only ones to return. Anyway, the Stg 44 has always interested me, never have even seen one, much less could buy an original. When ATI announced they were bringing out the reproduction in 22 LR, I knew I had to have one if they were of any quality. Did alot of research before getting one and when they became available to a gunshop in my area, I checked one out and bought.

As had been reported in several tests on forums I read, the quality was top notch, also the degree of reproduction as far as I could see in comparing with original pictures. It's a heavy gun for a 22, but I rather have that than some super light repro, it adds to its degree of having an original. The only problem I had was loading and firing the 25 rd magazine. I had problems when trying to chamber the first round, as it would hang up before entering the chamber. After chambering and firing the first round, the second would do the same at times. I was disappointed for sure as the reports I had read indicated chambering and firing with no problems. The gunshop owner told me after I asked him that others who had bought a Stg 44 from him had not reported any problems. If I would only load the magazine with 22 rounds I didn't have a problem. I purchased three more magazines within several weeks and upon using them, I had no problems, even loading them with 25 rds. After around a dozen loadings with the original magazine, I haven't had any problems.

I wonder if the original magazine needed a break-in period, possibly having a small unseen burr or something hindering the loading procedure? Can't tell ya. I did find and discover that the rifle needs to have the charging lever pulled back and 'let go' with authority for good cycling. You can't treat it with 'kid gloves'! I think I was being to gentle with it when I first got it.

I used mostly Federal ammo in the 555 rd boxes, some Winchestor and Remington rounds also.. Once I got the feeding problem taken care of, they all digested and shot good. Accuracy was good for the sights present. Shot at cans from 25 yds, hitting and destroying them. After adjusting the rear sight, it shot to point of aim. Went back to 40 and 50 yds and was impressed. Shot at jugs full of water and at a large bull target. Hit the jugs with no problem and had respectifull hits on the bullseye target. This "aint" no super target rifle if you want to compare it with such, but a fun plinking, 'spray and pray' if ya want to rip off a 25 rd magazine, historical rifle to shoot and have. No regrets in buying.

[gj dettore]

So what's the latest on "out the door" price for one of these rifles?

[PlaceOfBayonets]

I came to start a thread on these rifles but found this. I have joined the ownership club too just weeks after hearing about them. I am still wating for the gun broker dealer to ship it however and cannot wait to see it in person and feel what a MP44 feels like in hand. Never even seen an original in person.

Love to own an original but they are way too expensive.

When you compare the original side by side with the 22 gal it's about 97% spot on.

I just hope some company will decide to make after market mags for them in steel. I bought this to replace my 10/22 for plinking and if need be more serious matters.