leuchtpistole 42 nitro

[eppo]

Hello,

Can anyone maybe tell me how I can see wen a leuchtpistole 42 is tested for nitro? There shoud be some kind of marking on it,

thanks,

friendly greets,

eppo

[BrunoH]

Hi,
What do you mean by 'tested for nitro' ?
For me, leuchtpistole (and LP42 model) are just manufactured for firing flare cartridges.. and nitro is a chemical element ... so I can't figure out what it's about.
Thanks in advance for your explanations ...
Regards

[SIGNALMAN]

The only proofmark on the the LP-42 is a Waa marking on the left side of the chamber.

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[eppo]

I've been told that some german leuchtpistole were tested for nitroglycerine.
If thats the case there should be some sort of marking on the pistol.
If the marking is present, then there would be a problem in countries like the Netherlands. Its prohibited to have firearms that can fire shells wilth nitroglycerine!

[DaveR]

i think he means nitro proofed eagle over the N as you find on the hand guns. i dont think that mark will be found on a flare gun.
it does not mean shooting a projectile with liquid nitro lol.
NitroCellulose sometimes called Gun Cotton was a early type of smokeless power

[racefiets]

England has tested flareguns with a small nitroload because they didn't use black powder for proofing anymore. These were al done after WW2.

[eppo]

I mean that what racefiets is talking about!
I've been told that England have tested German flareguns for, or with nitro, and that could be a problem in the Netherlands iff you get an inspection of your weaponssafe and they find such a pistol in it. Here in the Netherlands is it only allowed to have guns on a permit. If the flare gun is tested for , or with nitro, and its not on your permit because you've bought it and did'nt know that,
than it's illegal weaponpossesion and can you loose all your weapons to the police.

[DaveR]

when you say Nitro in relation to gun's it has nothing to do with a liquid nitroglycerine. Nitro proofing on gun's started well before the end of ww2. it only means the weapon will use modern gunpowder, and not black powder. it has nothing to do with the liquid form.
the presence of a nitro-proof marking indicates that this firearm was also proved using newer smokeless nitro-powders.
http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/...roof-test.html

[racefiets]

The differance with the britisch proof is although it was done with nitro the proof was done for a blackpowder round. The brittisch proof doesn't make it a weapon for nitro rounds.

[BrunoH]

So .. to summarize, this marking is a typical British legal constraint ...
I know that owning a flare gun in UK (even in a boat - as survival equipment) is not 'free'. So to answer the initial question posted by eppo, this 'marking' is a post war marking done by UK ... and from me to you, using a flare gun to shot something else than a flare cartridge ....

[racefiets]

This nitroproof was not done for shooting anything else. They just stopped proofing with blackpowder. Instead they used a smaller nitro load to mimic the blackpowder pressures.

[BrunoH]

Yes, but it's a way to proof the barrel resistance (I never said that you were looking for using a LP for shooting 'normal' bullets !!
I can't imagine what would be any other purpose for such tests.
Best regards

[Johnny Peppers]

The proofing procedure was done to see if the pistol or rifle would stand up to a heavier than normal load with no problems. On a pistol such as the Luger, the barrel, receiver, and breech block all had the proof mark indicating that it had passed the proofing procedure.

[BrunoH]

Hi Johnny,

The proofing procedure is done by the pistol/revolver/gun manufacturer or in some cases by a state / country (an accredited company) during importing procedure. The objectives are to determine the safety for the user and the classification (if there is any).

These procedures should concern the normal use / objectives of the gun tested. So testing a flare gun for other cartridges than flare ones is only motivated by:

- verifying that a flare gun could/couldn't be used as a lethal gun (firing bullets),
- depending on the here above results, decide if this kind of gun needs a license or not


So am I wrong or do I miss something ?

Regards

[Johnny Peppers]

Certainly no contradiction of anything that was posted previously was intended. I was pointing out that modern gun proofing consisted of proofing the gun as a unit. A revolver was mentioned, in which case the cylinder is the weak link, but when proofed the barrel and frame must also pass the proof test and will be so marked.

In the case of the small arms Lend-Leased to England in WWII, no additional proofing was required for military use, but once they were released for commercial sale they had to go through a British proof house in order to comply with British proof laws.