I should also add that the gentleman I went to visit yesterday said the sights and trigger grouping are original to my rifle. However, parts of the trigger grouping were polished and had the rifle's SN electropenciled onto it for the National Match.
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The Springfield Armory National Match rifles did not have the rifles serial number on any of the parts except in the bottom of the trigger housing, and the last four digits were put on in white ink. The same digits in white pencil was put inside the wood. May have been done by some unit armorer, but not Springfield Armory.Originally posted by GIZMO8Z View Post
The stock on the SA NM rifles were glass bedded by routing out the pressure points and glass bedding with a white/yellow fiberglass compound.
Also, the op rod, front and rear sight, and gas cylinder will be marked NM on the SA rifles.
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Thanks for the clarification! Sorry for my inexperience on this. Yes, the trigger housing bottom does have the serial number inked onto it... he showed it to me and based on my experience with Mosins I assumed it was electro pencil.Originally posted by Johnny Peppers View PostThe Springfield Armory National Match rifles did not have the rifles serial number on any of the parts except in the bottom of the trigger housing, and the last four digits were put on in white ink. The same digits in white pencil was put inside the wood. May have been done by some unit armorer, but not Springfield Armory.
The stock on the SA NM rifles were glass bedded by routing out the pressure points and glass bedding with a white/yellow fiberglass compound.
Also, the op rod, front and rear sight, and gas cylinder will be marked NM on the SA rifles.
The stock on my rifle is not NM... no glass bedding.
I just texted the gentleman who looked at my rifle and he explained that my rifle was: "Former NM disassembled and restored to service grade. Great gun!"Comment
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I think you will find when you keep looking, that CPM sold repro stocks with Department of Defense Acceptance Stamps (which is that stamp on your stock, not an arsenal rebuild). Its no on the current stocks they sell but I remember them from when I was looking. I remember thinking how odd it was that would use that stamp... however I am no expert but I would keep looking into it if you want the real answer.Originally posted by GIZMO8Z View PostAs I said earlier, I thought the stock was a repro at first, too! It looks in that good of condition. However, it has the arsenal rebuild eagle w/ three stars cartouche and the non serif P in circle cartouche on the pistol grip. The Garand expert I brought my rifle to last evening said it's a damn near mint HRA USGI stock from the 50s.
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As much discussion as there as been on fake DAS marking, I would find it unusual
That CMP would use that stamp. They have their own cartouche, but I have never
seen a stock with a fake DAS marking from the CMP.
An H&R stock would not have been original to a Springfield Armory NM rifle.
Could you show pictures of the polished parts in the trigger group?Comment
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True. Thing is with mine, it has been rearsenaled ('53 barrel with WWII era parts), so guess the rod escaped the modification program? Makes you wonder if any more "rack grade" matching rifles exist in the CMP.Originally posted by Johnny Peppers View PostIf the rifle somehow escaped rebuild, the op rod would not have been modified. About a year ago I sold a March 1945 M1 Rifle that had been purchased through the old DCM by a friend when it was one rifle in a lifetime. The rifle was totally correct as built in 1945, and was received that way. It was virtually new condition with the exception of a few op rod and rear sight dings in the stock.
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May have missed it depending on which echelon it was rebuilt on.Originally posted by Death-Ace View Post
A friend received his rifle through the DCM before the CMP was organized. It was a Win-13 rifle in absolutely new condition other than the correct stock had been arsenal sanded. In talking to Billy Pyle, "The Gas Trap Garand", he said he knew of 10 or so Win-13 rifles sent out about the same time.
Amazingly, in about two weeks my friend received another M1 Rifle from the DCM, which was a really beat up rifle. He decided he had better call the DCM to explain that he had received two, and the next day he got a letter telling him to send the last rifle back. He was just glad it didn't have to return the Win-13.Comment
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The CMP has been more than good to me... On several occasions...
I.E.The probability of being watched is directly proportional to the stupidity of your act.
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Sorry this has taken so long in coming... here is the serial number on the trigger group:
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