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    A couple of new dummies for the collection.

    I am in CA so MG dummies are all I can own here.
    Picked up these mix-master kits built around dummy receivers.
    1. MG15 all waffen marked, no dates, or codes cannot read code on waffen mark.
    2. MG34 DOT 1945 front end. 1943 HQU drum



    Thought I'd share, they will look good in the collection.

    I am going to try to clean them up a little as they have been somewhere damp a long time.

    Interesting to know they were still producing the '34 parts in 1945?

    If anyone has a source for dummy WW2 8mm I'd be interested.

    Pit.
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    Originally posted by pitfighter View Post
    I am in CA so MG dummies are all I can own here.
    Picked up these mix-master kits built around dummy receivers.
    1. MG15 all waffen marked, no dates, or codes cannot read code on waffen mark.
    2. MG34 DOT 1945 front end. 1943 HQU drum



    Thought I'd share, they will look good in the collection.

    I am going to try to clean them up a little as they have been somewhere damp a long time.

    Interesting to know they were still producing the '34 parts in 1945?

    If anyone has a source for dummy WW2 8mm I'd be interested.

    Pit.
    Looks great!

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      #3
      very nice for display !!
      (that is a MG13 ,not 15)

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        #4
        Really nice! Can ou dry fire or cock them?

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          #5
          The MG13 (Thank you!) has some internal parts, the charging handle moves with the return spring, but the lower half of the bolt and firing mechanism is not there, the forward part of the receiver is a steel tube, so you cannot reinstall any of the missing parts. The mag was an MG13 I had here in my collection. there is no writing on it, save for the waffen stamps, I went to look at the 34 he had for sale and saw the MG13 in the back of the garage looking lonely, I made a deal for both.

          The MG34 is a parts kit built around an aluminum receiver, so nothing moves, the top cover lifts and has the moving internals and the feed tray is clipped in place, but that is that.
          I've ordered an anti aircraft sight and slings, for them, a little penetrating oil on the surface parts overnight cleaned up the surface oxidization beautifully.

          Here is a photo of the other things the guy had for sale, I have focused only on German collecting , so none is of interest to me.
          *When I stopped collecting anything that took my fancy, and focused my collection in one area it really started to become something worthwhile.

          These were not super cheap - but interesting what Craigslist turns up.


          Pit.

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            #6
            Hello Pit,

            I hadn't realised your MG34 was a dot 1945. Would you mind posting a couple of pics in this other thread, showing the maker's code and stamps?:

            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=1945+mg34

            Carles

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              #7
              Pitfighters Private Artillery Inc.

              A Grand stash of amassed weaponry Pit. I thought I was on an IMA machine gun page for a moment. Congrats on your new pieces and adding them to your formidible Armory.

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                #8
                Finally managed to turn one up that is heavier than the mG13 - the MG15 watercooled - it is a beast - no longer need gym membership.

                Pit.

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                  Pit,

                  Your personal depot is expanding nicely

                  I would also love to own a MG15, as one w/ ground kit would go nicely with my -41 Gustloff-Werke MG 34. Having said that, I do think those Romanian contract water cooled ST61/MG15s are one ugly beasts - a real Frankensteins.

                  Related to your earlier question, MG 34s were produced by the Brno (DOT) to the bitter end, as even after the MG 42's adoption, MG 34s were still needed for armored vehicles and fortification mounts. Also the huge number of MG 34s already fielded needed spare parts.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Aktivisti View Post
                    Pit,


                    Related to your earlier question, MG 34s were produced by the Brno (DOT) to the bitter end, as even after the MG 42's adoption, MG 34s were still needed for armored vehicles and fortification mounts. Also the huge number of MG 34s already fielded needed spare parts.
                    Well, Brno produced MG34s not only till the end of the war but even a bit later, with leftover parts. By posting the stamps in that other thread you might help to find out about what serial number was produced during the war or later. We know by now that it is between batch letter a and b. By finding the lowest number with israeli stamps, or the highest without them, we might guess when the war time production ended.

                    Carles

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                      #11
                      Mg34

                      Hi,
                      Does the MG34 have a six-pointed Star of David stamped on it anywhere?
                      The bipod looks like the one the Israelis fitted to MG34s.
                      Good hunting,
                      Grossfuss
                      Last edited by Grossfuss; 12-12-2012, 10:52 AM. Reason: Inadvertant insertion of symbol

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                        #12
                        I will take it out and photograph it, gents, thanks for the interest.
                        Even though it is a dummy - it is kept in the safe, with all the prop guns - which takes a little maneuvering to photograph.

                        I used to have them around my office, but, it started to get a little out of control, and most of the people I am meeting had no idea they were dummies, they might talk to a nefarious character and then where would I be?

                        "There's this nut low budget director keeps real machineguns in his office..."

                        Yes, the MG15 is a frankenstein - but I've never seen one on a movie, so I think it could be interesting.
                        The crew served weapons, take up so much room.

                        Carls - you would hate me, I had to have ten belts stretched to fit 7.62mm blanks (use a stainless specially shaped wrench handle), we did it to 39 and 43 dated belts ( about four different makers total), ahhhh the horror - but they will be used and used, so they are doing what they should - and interestingly can be brought back to 8mm with a simple squeeze from a pair of pliers on each link, doesn't even scratch the finish.
                        *There are issues with importing Yugo belts, trust me, I tried.

                        I did think of all the collectors as I did it, though - some looked unused, still in cosmo, lol - I am torturing you purposely!

                        Pit.
                        PS - if anyone recalls my thread about discovering the FG42 in the Vancouver Regiment arsenal - here is the film I was making in Vancouver, it comes out Feb 19th.
                        http://www.craveonline.com/film/prev...er-the-package

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                          #13
                          Pit,


                          You are very naughty You could have used NATO post war belts...you can find them round every corner, and cheap enough. Those belts are steel and could crack if you open and close them too many times, be careful.

                          I guess I won't take my kids to see that film. They are only 8 and 6.

                          It would be great if you could post a couple of pics of the stamps on your MG34. The highest non-israeli MG34 is a 1945 9964 a, so I guess war mounted MGs was halted about early b batch.

                          Carles
                          Last edited by me6_130; 12-12-2012, 12:46 PM.

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                            #14
                            Here is the poor old frankenstein MG34 - yes, Israeli Star of David, I am not sure, if this will end up being restored - for the time being it will stay as is.
                            *I think that is the most different serial numbers possible in one photo - lol








                            Pit.
                            *Ref. "The Package" - Carles, yes probably best you don't show it to your kids - although, I wasn't allowed to show any real violence, Anchor Bay's primary sale is TV, so they read me the riot act about blood and gore.

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