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    Have a co-worker that stumbled upon this .45 and thought it could be a WWII 1911a1 that was "sporterized". The pics of the slide are a spare slide, likely the original one to the frame. Know pics are not best but they were from a camera phone. What does he have here?
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        From what I can garner, I see an original WWI-era M1911. The grips have been replaced and I believe those are bone with Mexican Pesos embedded in them? As for the slide, I'd say that was a great idea if they just kept the original safe and a replacement (also WWI-era) for target shooting (Hardball, etc.). Not sure what the reasoning of customizing an era slide was for, unless to keep the appearance. All have been reblued with some of the markings worn, but still a nice piece! Not sure about the magazine, thinking WWII? The "R" looks familiar.

        PS: I wouldn't shoot her from a historical standpoint, unless sporadically, and due to possible metallurgy issues.

        Blue Skies of Thunderbolts,
        Lev

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          #5
          Keep in mind the 30 -40 years ago surplus Colt 1911s were commonly available,generally not collected and inexpensive. I remember seeing DCM ads for surplus 1911's in the American Rifleman for $17. I also remember I bought my first 1911 for well under $100. No one at that time ever thought twice about modifying one to meet their own personal requirements.
          This is very similiar to the "sporterizing" that befell 1903 Springfields and K98 Mausers. I for one sometimes wince when I see an example of this at a gun show today.
          Jim

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            #6
            Death-Ace pretty well summed it up. The pistol and spare slide have been buffed pretty hard and blued. The spare slide may very well be the original slide, but can't make out the serial number in the picture. The slide on the pistol is a 1911A1 Colt with the tempered front end.

            The magazine is a WWII made by Risdon Tool & Machine. The M. S. Little Co. supplied the parts, and Risdon assembled the magazine.

            As D-A noted, the 1911 receivers had no tempering, and are not a good candidate for a lot of shooting. Most of the collectibility has been destroyed, so enjoy it as an occasional shooter.

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              #7
              Not to change the subject at hand, but the pesos inset in the plastic grips appear to be gold peso coins?

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                #8
                Looks like a Mexican gang-pistol...
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                Collector of French ww2-era insignia.

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                  Thanks guys for your help

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                    Originally posted by scotty1418 View Post
                    Looks like a Mexican gang-pistol...
                    Nah, they're partial to .38 Super
                    WAF LIFE COACH

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                      #11
                      Not sure of the laws now, but at one time in Mexico the .45ACP pistol was illegal for civilians to own while the Super .38 pistol was legal. Had something to do with the .45 being used by the military and police in Mexico.

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                        #12
                        Nice one, Johnny!! What we've come to expect from you, Sir!!

                        r
                        The probability of being watched is directly proportional to the stupidity of your act.

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                          Thanks. When the pistol came out it was the Super .38, but over the years it has become known as the .38 Super. The original ammo was a hotter version of the old .38 Automatic, and was labeled .38 Super Automatic to distinguish it as being a hotter load. The .38 Super name prevailed, and even Colt uses that now.

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