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    STG44 production codes?

    Today I saw a Stg44 for the first time ever. It is so much nicer in real than on pictures!!! It almost has a science fiction like Star Wars look to it

    I think this one was marked af 45? Unfortunately I can't find the af code in my usual lists? Does anyone here know how many production codes there were for the Stg44? Also can it be that I misread the code?

    #2
    Originally posted by P08
    Today I saw a Stg44 for the first time ever. It is so much nicer in real than on pictures!!! It almost has a science fiction like Star Wars look to it

    I think this one was marked af 45? Unfortunately I can't find the af code in my usual lists? Does anyone here know how many production codes there were for the Stg44? Also can it be that I misread the code?
    Both of mine are bnz marked on the receiver, but a lot of the components have other manufacturers codes on them. I believe that to increase production of the Stg44s a significant portion of the parts were made by other companies and assembled in the main factory. Also the code is located on the barrel bush, under the handguard.

    So is if possible that the af code was a sub-contractor's code?

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      #3
      Maybe it is "ar" instead of "af"?



      <TABLE width="90%" border=1><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD align=left>ar </TD><TD align=left>Mauser-Werke AG, Werk Borsigwalde, Berlin-Borsigwalde, Eichborndamm </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

      http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/codes_rifle.html

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        #4
        It is possible that I may have misread the code. It was placed on the frame just above the point where you insert the magazine.

        Kiwicollector

        You actually have TWO Stg44's!!!?? I am sooo envious Are they deactivated, converted to semi auto or unmolested and functional?

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          #5
          They are East German re-builds so mis-matched or forced matched. Both are fully operational, except one was converted to semi-auto by braising the selector in place. This has been removed, but the person who did it didn't do the best work and it's left some scars on the inside.

          As also you may be looking at the suffix of the serial number which is located on the magazine housing, both mine have the serial number / date there.

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            #6
            kiwicollector


            I'm not sure exactly what "braising" means? Still I have to admit that I'm envious on your STG's I heard/read somewhere that you can't get any ammunition for the STG44 anymore since only the nazi's made it. However someone told me that the East Germans made a lot during the 60s. Do you know if that's true?

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              #7
              Originally posted by P08
              kiwicollector


              I'm not sure exactly what "braising" means? Still I have to admit that I'm envious on your STG's I heard/read somewhere that you can't get any ammunition for the STG44 anymore since only the nazi's made it. However someone told me that the East Germans made a lot during the 60s. Do you know if that's true?
              I read/heard a rumour about tons of STG44 ammo being destroyed here in Norway in the 80´s.

              PS. I have shot a few rounds of original ammo with my STG44. Nice gun indeed

              Here is more info:
              http://claus.espeholt.dk/mp44.htm

              Cheers.
              Peter Wiking

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                #8
                Originally posted by P08
                kiwicollector
                I'm not sure exactly what "braising" means? Still I have to admit that I'm envious on your STG's I heard/read somewhere that you can't get any ammunition for the STG44 anymore since only the nazi's made it. However someone told me that the East Germans made a lot during the 60s. Do you know if that's true?
                Braising is where you make a weld with bronze (I think ). As for ammo it was made in East Germany, for some time and in the former Yugoslavia as both countries used the MP-44 up until the 1980's. In NZ the ammo is rare and expensive. But if you want to shoot your MP-44, you can always make some ammo.

                the link Peter gave is an excellent sourse of information, also my website (in my signature) has a lot of pictures.

                Edit: I should clarify that both full-auto and semi-auto MP-44's were imported into NZ, but we are not allowed to shoot our full-autos, only the semi's.

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                  #9
                  STG ammo

                  Hello Gents,
                  Yes the STG is a great weapon! I had two at one time and like an idiot sold them both thinking of replacing them later...DOH! They were both MP44's and the code af was on both of them (hand guards) also fxo, ag and a couple of other codes I don't recall now.
                  I never heard the rumor of the ammo destruction but if people need some I still have a few hundred rounds I can sell. Original if you wish and I do have some of the Czech as well.


                  Gary



                  Originally posted by Peter Wiking
                  I read/heard a rumour about tons of STG44 ammo being destroyed here in Norway in the 80´s.

                  PS. I have shot a few rounds of original ammo with my STG44. Nice gun indeed

                  Here is more info:
                  http://claus.espeholt.dk/mp44.htm

                  Cheers.
                  Peter Wiking

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                    #10
                    Thanks all. Good info. Espeholts page is very good also. Kiwi thanks for explaining.

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                      #11
                      Hey kiwicollector,

                      Do you have some reloading data for the 7,92 x33?
                      Thank's

                      Frank

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Frank De Smedt
                        Hey kiwicollector,

                        Do you have some reloading data for the 7,92 x33?
                        Thank's

                        Frank
                        Sorry, not at hand. I'll need to have look at my notes (lost in a house move )

                        Cartridges of the world has some loads for it I thought?

                        Cheers

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                          #13
                          My reloading data for the 7.92 Kurz round is as follows:


                          Alliant powder 2400 13 grains
                          IMR powder 4198 20-23 grains

                          Hope this helps.

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                            #14
                            I use Vithavuori N120 (20 gr)

                            anybody has a good adress (preferably in europe) for 125 grain 8 mm heads ?

                            Tom
                            http://www.mp44.nl

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