E-stand MP38 good or fake?

[me6_130]

Gentlemen,

I was having a look at E-stand when I saw this MP38. I decided to have a look, but when I got to the barrel.... Please let me know what you think.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=594900

Pic #1 is the barrel of the E-stand MP38 being sold as original, and pic#2 is the repro barrel another member sells on Ebay.

Carles

[me6_130]

In fact, I have just realised it is the same member that sells repro items in Ebay that is selling this MP38 as original!!!!!

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=585867


Carles

[Willi Z.]

Is this Mp38 a fake?

Hard to imagine it is a ground dug original.

[Aktivisti]

Looks like a ground dug MP38 to me - with a modern/repro dummy "barrel" with fake markings.

A valid deact in many EU countries, not in the US (intact receiver).

Aktivisti

[TMurray]

I agree, looks ground dug to me as well. Also looks like it's been cleaned with an angle grinder, wire brush etc, heavily scored the metal and wiped out much of the markings and finish.

[Frank Schneider]

Looking at the second dig up picture - that barrel looks longer than a standard one....

KR,
Frank.

[Aktivisti]

Looking at the second dig up picture - that barrel looks longer than a standard one....

KR,
Frank.

That is what I call proper barrel distortion (normal effect w/ wide angle lens).

IMHO, nothing wrong with the barrel in the dig up pictures. But as said, now it has a completely different dummy "barrel".

[me6_130]

IMHO, nothing wrong with the barrel in the dig up pictures. But as said, now it has a completely different dummy "barrel".

Well, that's the question. If parts have been changed, shouldn't seller say so? The barrel would have been numbered and WaA'ed to the rest of the weapon, if had bought it I would like to know what I am buying. I think it is reasonable taking into account the selling price.

Carles

[Aktivisti]

Well, that's the question. If parts have been changed, shouldn't seller say so? The barrel would have been numbered and WaA'ed to the rest of the weapon, if had bought it I would like to know what I am buying. I think it is reasonable taking into account the selling price.

Carles

Carles, I of course agree - other than spending money on anything in this condition in the first place.

Anyway, this could have been a language barrier thing BUT it appears that this very same seller also has repro MP38 receiver tubes on sale at eBay - with the same s/n as in this gun.

Steer clear, says I.

Aktivisti

[me6_130]

BUT it appears that this very same seller also has repro MP38 receiver tubes on sale at eBay - with the same s/n as in this gun.

Steer clear, says I.

Aktivisti

Yes, that's another point. After hearing the latest news about repro MP38s (most of us couldn't tell the difference) why wouldn't someone get a repro, burry it and 'find' it some time later, if you had the parts? 2500 eu for a groundfound repro would be wounderful, wouldn't it? If the seller has the parts and sells repro parts as original, suspicion is the minimum that awakes in me. If we can't tell the difference between a repro and an original in good condition, how can we tell if it is groundfound original or a repro???

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...highlight=mp38

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...highlight=mp38

Carles

[me6_130]

So we've got a 'groundfound original' for sale at E-stand with s/n 1884 but the barrel is a repro, also numbered 1884! And the same person sells repro barrels and receivers at Ebay, and these are numbered 1884...come on, I studied literature but I know that 1+1= 2. Tell me I'm mistaken, please.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/320889483570?...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

PS: I have no problem if some one sells repros, but at a repro price and saying what it is, of course.


Carles

[Aktivisti]

I studied literature but I know that 1+1= 2. Tell me I'm mistaken, please.

Carles

You are. Had you studied logic or mathematics, you would know that 1+1=1 can also be true

[varveklis]

Mp-38

I do not understand what the problem is?????
I notice that I have written, this refurbished MP38, as it is replaced parts receiver, barrel, and many other parts, but most remained in the original and added a lot of manual labor, has been restored it is supported by records which have been ......... .... whether you wanted to buy the original MP38 for 2500 ........... eu??????
attach a photo as it was found

[varveklis]

So we've got a 'groundfound original' for sale at E-stand with s/n 1884 but the barrel is a repro, also numbered 1884! And the same person sells repro barrels and receivers at Ebay, and these are numbered 1884...come on, I studied literature but I know that 1+1= 2. Tell me I'm mistaken, please.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/320889483570?...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

PS: I have no problem if some one sells repros, but at a repro price and saying what it is, of course.


Carles

so I made receiver and barrel, and this was made for the MP38, but what's wrong????

[phil337]

The issue at hand is that you didnt state in the description that the receiver and Barrel are Reproduction.