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    A really weird pistol

    I have no idea what this is. It was a gift(surprise). It is ca. 8" long., it breaks from the top using a crude release catch. The bore appears to be smooth. There is no cartride recess and the head space is almost non-existent as can be seen in the photo. It does appear quite old . Everthing function but it has a horrendus trigger pull. Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,

    Bill
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        #4
        Some kind of flare gun?

        Carles

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          #5
          Looks to possibly be .410 bore size, and made by someone with metalworking skills. The smoothbore puts it in the NFA classification.

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            #6
            Looks handmade?

            If there arent any markings I'd lean towards this.
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            Collector of French ww2-era insignia.

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              #7
              Scotty, you are correct. These are Asian Made originals, Khyber pass or whatever you call it pistols. They can be found in all sorts of configurations and calibers. My favorites are the Martini Action pistols in .303 cal. these are hand made with the crudest tools, and scraps of steel like old railway rails and machinery.

              Value is not much, but they deserve a place in any gun collection if only to prove to anti-gunners that banning guns will not stop them from being made. These are made by some of most backward peoples of the world !

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                #8
                Darra, Pakistan is famous the world over as the "city of gunsmiths".



                http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1g...tan_shortfilms

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Gary Cain View Post
                  Darra, Pakistan is famous the world over as the "city of gunsmiths".



                  http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1g...tan_shortfilms
                  That was great video. But look at all those nice collectibles on the walls of the last shop

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                    #10
                    Most of those are new made. They copy everything down to the logo's.
                    Originally posted by rajko84 View Post
                    That was great video. But look at all those nice collectibles on the walls of the last shop

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                      #11
                      Thanks very much for all the responses on this pistol. It could be for a .410 gauge shell but to be honest when the the gun is closed there is near zero room for a cartridge base.It is almost flush with the reciever. It would have to take a rimless cartridge but there is no shoulder in the barrel that I can see that would support a cartridge. In any event I certainly agree it is a hand-made piece but as to what it can fire it is still a mystery to me.

                      Bill

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                        #12
                        Some friends and I once hobbed these designs out in high school shop class. This was in the mid '60's, certainly couldn't get away with that in this day and age....

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                          Originally posted by Norman Hamilton View Post
                          Some friends and I once hobbed these designs out in high school shop class. This was in the mid '60's, certainly couldn't get away with that in this day and age....
                          Yep, a kid my high school shop class made a cannon out of stainless steel with an aluminum anodized base, breech loading, single shot. The thing was very modern and would have fit into Star Wars. The workmanship and finish was first class. Can't remember the caliber but think it was .45 acp.

                          Interesting pistol Bill.
                          Esse Quam Videri

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                            #14
                            I've travelled in Pakistan, and the gun markets are incredible- I was amazed at the huge variety of international firearms that have made it over there, as well as the ingenuity of the local gunsmiths in fabricating, modifying, and repairing all kinds of weapons. The best part is that you can test-fire anything you want in the back courtyards, and even acquire firearms as a foreigner (strictly cash and carry with no paperwork). Of course you have to dispose of them before leaving...

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                              #15
                              PO 8 Artillery....Nazi gun...pure evil in my hand....oh please. A copy of the SPAS 12? I wonder how close it is to the Italian original?

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