Question pricing K98 ZF41 sniper

[bergler]

Hi,
I need some help with two K98 for ZF41, but don´t know current market prices. Could you please give me a rough indication what these rifles would go for on the market:

byf 43 with scope/without scope
bcd/ar 42 with scope/without scope

the rifles themselves are quite good und 100% original (not refitted with rail, no post- war stampings), but have many differing serial numbers on its various parts. Both of them don´t have matching numbers, unfortunately. The rails are 100% ok, the one on the byf bearing a WaA135 which should be ok for this manufacturer. They are original "sniper" K98 if one wants to call the ZF41 a sniper scope. The scopes are a cxn and a fzg, both in good condition with sun shades.

I know it is difficult to price without pics (I can add later), but mabe it is possible to give a rough indication.

Thanks!

[wolfcastle]

Well, you might be able to get US350 plus for a Russian capture bcd/ar non-sniper as the code is relatively rare. Price on a non-capture simply depends on what parts match. A matching stock, barrel etc but mismatched bolt (common w/ bring backs) would fetch decent $. Anything mismatched beyond the bolt drops the price dramatically and basically makes it a shooter. Looking forward to the pics.

[scotty1418]

the rifles themselves are quite good und 100% original (not refitted with rail, no post- war stampings), but have many differing serial numbers on its various parts. Both of them don´t have matching numbers, unfortunately. The rails are 100% ok, the one on the byf bearing a WaA135 which should be ok for this manufacturer. They are original "sniper" K98 if one wants to call the ZF41 a sniper scope. The scopes are a cxn and a fzg, both in good condition with sun shades.


Thanks!

Are the stocks properly inletted for the rails? If not then to me they'd just be ZF41 receiver on a mixmaster.

I think you need to provide more detail and possibly pictures to get a real idea.

[Ostmark]

The price range is from 1500 - 3000 thats what i have seen so far
Pics would be very helpfull. I have not seen an original configuration
for a very long time for sale

[walkuren]

Prices are very hard to tell without the pictures. Price depents on condition, is the zf rail original to the k98? For example a bnz with zf rail is not original. Etc.

A k98 zf in matching numbers is almost impossible. I have looked for a long time now and seen 1 in 15years and that 1 wasn't even for sale.

I bought 1 Byf 44/45 a few months ago . This is a very rar kriegsmodel with an end of december 1944-januari 1945 block!
I would say that the price in euro is between 750 euro and the 3000 euro for a very rare one.

But to give a good amount show us some pictures.

Cheers Mike

[bergler]

Pictures....

Took me a while to take and upload the pictures, but at last......here they are. As mentioned, both rifles are in good condition (bore, surface etc) and have no added markings. No typical russian marks or else. Rails should be original, not added. Stocks same, but reworked as it seems (at least new varnish). The parts are not matching though.
Hope this is enough to get a better picture and a better indication about pricing....

Rifle #1:

[bergler]

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Rifle #2:

[roughshooter]

Hello Sir,

On both rifles...

....the bluing is consistant with that seen on Russian captured examples after they have been reblued.

Also the stocks appear varnished and this is not how it would have originally left the factory. They would have been oiled.

Both these things suggest they are russian capture guns, so it won't be anywhere near the 3000 euro mark for the ZF41, more like 800-900 if an original.

Regards Craig.

[Von Kleist]

The bcd/ar looks like it could have an original ZF/41 stock.

But I agree, they both have that RC look to them..

Other stock looks bad..


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[bergler]

Stocks have been revarnished and I think as well that they were russian captured guns, taken apart and arsenalised and reassembled much later without care about numbering and matching parts. But there is, fortunately, no typical russian XXX or else. And I don´t think they have been reblued. I have quite a few K98 and I think I would recognise a reblueing.

[blitzkrieg gsd]

What do you guys think about the eagle stamps? Something is bothering me about them I don't know why but they look diffrent then the ones on my rifle. Didn't they remove most of them on the r/c rifles at least the ones easily seen? The stocks have for sure been refinished I can't make a call on the blueing from the pics. Now for price to me if I was a buyer on these two rifles I would look at them as r/c rifles. That being said I think the rails are original the Russians captured sniper rifles as well so they are in a since original zf41. There just not in as captured condition and have been reworked by the Russian that's why there are so many mixed serial numbers on them. I would want to pay between 500-750 bucks each for them of course if original scopes and hardware were with them whatever you value them at added to the price. Russian capture or not they are still original k98 sniper rifles and they are harder to come by in last 10-20 yrs and are pricey for the great ones. Set completly up and on a gun show table the rite buyer mite pay over a thousand on a good day if that's what he wants.

[Von Kleist]

The bluing is typical RC rework.

I'm not sure I would go that high for a RC ZF/41..


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[Daniel H.]

What do you guys think about the eagle stamps? Something is bothering me about them I don't know why but they look diffrent then the ones on my rifle. Didn't they remove most of them on the r/c rifles at least the ones easily seen? The stoc.......

The strikes look less than perfect but otherwise typical. If the metal was refinished, some of the edge detail might have been lost. As for pricing, even a R/C ZF-41 will do well in the US. Estimates mentioned here are not unrealistic, though fixing the wood finish would really improve the prospects for a sale.

[bergler]

Hi all,
thanks for all opinions. Clear is that they are original with RC rework, no doubt. About pricing there are quite different opinions, but I have some indication now, many thanks! I think I will keep both for now, no urgent need for money and they will only increase in value. My opinion ;-)