I know this is just an ordinary nothing fancy Radom, but it's my second one. Just love them, full of history, and just had to show pics of it. All matching as well. Can anyone tell me when it was manufactured? Thanks!
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Joe
Your Radom would be considered a model Grade II, subvariation 2, based upon it's serial number prefex letter. Unfortunatly there is no real way to determin exactly when it was made.
I agree with you, that Radom model P-35p are very interesting pistols due to thier history. I have an early German made model with the stock lug in the grip.
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Thank you Sir for the information, I do appreciate this, and hearing from a fellow collector. There is a Radom in town with the groove for the stock on the handle, but the slide has a fair amount of pitting (he called it blood etching...tough for me to believe). Nice Radom, the owner is looking for about $300 USD for it though. Maybe...we'll see, not sure how rare these are. Take care and thanks again.
Joe
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The Radoms with the cut out for a shoulder stock were the earily versions. If it has a Polish eagle and the German WaA, then it is quite rare. If it just has the Polish eagle, it is not as rare, but still quite valuable. Those Radoms with the cut out, but w/o the Polish eagle are still great collectables.
Some dealers may try and convince you that pitting on a military gun is the result of blood lying on the metal. This is almost always BS. Quite a few military guns are pitted and it is the result of exposure to the elements, rather then blood drying on them.
If you want to take the time, you will find the circumstances concerning the development of this fine pistol by a Polish officer quite interesting.
Joe
Originally posted by Joe NThank you Sir for the information, I do appreciate this, and hearing from a fellow collector. There is a Radom in town with the groove for the stock on the handle, but the slide has a fair amount of pitting (he called it blood etching...tough for me to believe). Nice Radom, the owner is looking for about $300 USD for it though. Maybe...we'll see, not sure how rare these are. Take care and thanks again.
Joe
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The Polish Army started making these pistols in 1936 and made 49,000 of them. In mid September of 1939 the Germans became the new owners and continued operations until the factory was captured by the Russians in January of 1945.
As the war progressed the quality of workmanship deterioated considerably. Yours is a Grade II, when they started producing the Grade III series, the letter suffix for change of grades was "Z", serial number 2000.
The Germans made 84,900 Grade III, compared to 144,000 Grade II and only 62,000 Grade I.
As a guess, starting mid 1944 and into January of 1945, they were putting out only Grade III. They may have started making the Grade III in mid 1944, as they made only 84,900 of them and they must have been working 7 days a week, multipal shifts a day. This is only a estimate, based upon some documentation of Radom production figures.
I would think, that your serial number suffix "U" was made in very early 1944 or late 1943. If the Germans used all the final letters [V,W,X,Y,Z2000] as serial number suffixs and there were 9999 weapons in each suffix, there were approximatly 43,500 model P.35p made after you gun, until the end of Grade II production.
It would have been a lot eaiser for us, if the Germans had put on the year of production, as they did with most of the other military weapons, on this pistol.
Hope this is helpfull.
Joe F
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Great looking Radom. I'm a fan of the Radom pistol as well. It is a very solid design. Simple, rugged, reliable, shoots very well.
Here is my favorite Radom I have! It is late war "K" series Radom. It was made with Radom parts, but assembled at the Styer factory in Austria in 1945. It has grooved wooden grips, and green phosphate finish. The only parts that are blued are the slide release, grip screws, and magazine!
What a beauty!
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That is a very nice late war Radom. Looks to be in great condition.
Originally posted by Matt WeberGreat looking Radom. I'm a fan of the Radom pistol as well. It is a very solid design. Simple, rugged, reliable, shoots very well.
Here is my favorite Radom I have! It is late war "K" series Radom. It was made with Radom parts, but assembled at the Styer factory in Austria in 1945. It has grooved wooden grips, and green phosphate finish. The only parts that are blued are the slide release, grip screws, and magazine!
What a beauty!
Matt
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Originally posted by Greg CrockettThe "Rewolwar wz. 1930" (This one made in 1935). A Polish made Nagant, like the Russian Nagant Model 1895. Production stopped with the introduction of the M1935 9mm VIS.
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