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    Just An Ordinary Radom

    I know this is just an ordinary nothing fancy Radom, but it's my second one. Just love them, full of history, and just had to show pics of it. All matching as well. Can anyone tell me when it was manufactured? Thanks!

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    Here are the SN

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      #3
      And here is another I found in Europe in an attic, serial numbers are not that far off!
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        #4
        Joe

        Your Radom would be considered a model Grade II, subvariation 2, based upon it's serial number prefex letter. Unfortunatly there is no real way to determin exactly when it was made.

        I agree with you, that Radom model P-35p are very interesting pistols due to thier history. I have an early German made model with the stock lug in the grip.

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          #5
          Thank you Sir for the information, I do appreciate this, and hearing from a fellow collector. There is a Radom in town with the groove for the stock on the handle, but the slide has a fair amount of pitting (he called it blood etching...tough for me to believe). Nice Radom, the owner is looking for about $300 USD for it though. Maybe...we'll see, not sure how rare these are. Take care and thanks again.
          Joe

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            #6
            Joe
            The Radoms with the cut out for a shoulder stock were the earily versions. If it has a Polish eagle and the German WaA, then it is quite rare. If it just has the Polish eagle, it is not as rare, but still quite valuable. Those Radoms with the cut out, but w/o the Polish eagle are still great collectables.

            Some dealers may try and convince you that pitting on a military gun is the result of blood lying on the metal. This is almost always BS. Quite a few military guns are pitted and it is the result of exposure to the elements, rather then blood drying on them.

            If you want to take the time, you will find the circumstances concerning the development of this fine pistol by a Polish officer quite interesting.
            Joe



            Originally posted by Joe N
            Thank you Sir for the information, I do appreciate this, and hearing from a fellow collector. There is a Radom in town with the groove for the stock on the handle, but the slide has a fair amount of pitting (he called it blood etching...tough for me to believe). Nice Radom, the owner is looking for about $300 USD for it though. Maybe...we'll see, not sure how rare these are. Take care and thanks again.
            Joe

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              #7
              Radom

              Hi Joe. Based on my Radom research. If there is a stock slot it was most likely mfg. late 1940. Paul

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                #8
                Thanks Gentlemen. Hey Paul, any idea the date of manufacture for my U series Radoms? Thanks!

                Joe

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                  Joe n

                  The Polish Army started making these pistols in 1936 and made 49,000 of them. In mid September of 1939 the Germans became the new owners and continued operations until the factory was captured by the Russians in January of 1945.

                  As the war progressed the quality of workmanship deterioated considerably. Yours is a Grade II, when they started producing the Grade III series, the letter suffix for change of grades was "Z", serial number 2000.

                  The Germans made 84,900 Grade III, compared to 144,000 Grade II and only 62,000 Grade I.

                  As a guess, starting mid 1944 and into January of 1945, they were putting out only Grade III. They may have started making the Grade III in mid 1944, as they made only 84,900 of them and they must have been working 7 days a week, multipal shifts a day. This is only a estimate, based upon some documentation of Radom production figures.

                  I would think, that your serial number suffix "U" was made in very early 1944 or late 1943. If the Germans used all the final letters [V,W,X,Y,Z2000] as serial number suffixs and there were 9999 weapons in each suffix, there were approximatly 43,500 model P.35p made after you gun, until the end of Grade II production.

                  It would have been a lot eaiser for us, if the Germans had put on the year of production, as they did with most of the other military weapons, on this pistol.

                  Hope this is helpfull.
                  Joe F

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                    #10
                    Another cool "Radom"

                    The "Rewolwar wz. 1930" (This one made in 1935). A Polish made Nagant, like the Russian Nagant Model 1895. Production stopped with the introduction of the M1935 9mm VIS.

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                      #11
                      Great looking Radom. I'm a fan of the Radom pistol as well. It is a very solid design. Simple, rugged, reliable, shoots very well.

                      Here is my favorite Radom I have! It is late war "K" series Radom. It was made with Radom parts, but assembled at the Styer factory in Austria in 1945. It has grooved wooden grips, and green phosphate finish. The only parts that are blued are the slide release, grip screws, and magazine!
                      What a beauty!

                      Matt
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                        #12
                        Matt
                        That is a very nice late war Radom. Looks to be in great condition.



                        Originally posted by Matt Weber
                        Great looking Radom. I'm a fan of the Radom pistol as well. It is a very solid design. Simple, rugged, reliable, shoots very well.

                        Here is my favorite Radom I have! It is late war "K" series Radom. It was made with Radom parts, but assembled at the Styer factory in Austria in 1945. It has grooved wooden grips, and green phosphate finish. The only parts that are blued are the slide release, grip screws, and magazine!
                        What a beauty!

                        Matt

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                          #13
                          Here is my Radom

                          It has an original blue

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                            other photo

                            Originally posted by mariusz.v
                            It has an original blue
                            It has four digits only
                            Last edited by mariusz.v; 07-08-2004, 09:41 PM. Reason: wrong picture

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Greg Crockett
                              The "Rewolwar wz. 1930" (This one made in 1935). A Polish made Nagant, like the Russian Nagant Model 1895. Production stopped with the introduction of the M1935 9mm VIS.
                              I have matching polish nagant rev.ammo
                              Last edited by mariusz.v; 07-08-2004, 11:19 PM.

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