Winchester Model 1897 Riot Gun Spare Barrel Help

[Fritziii]

Hey guys, need some help. I came accross a spare 20" Winchester Model 1897 barrel in a military web spare barrel carrier( and it's marked as such on it), the barrel serial number is in the 487,000 range, 90%+ finish, CYL marked on the rear left. Whats a good price for one? Thanks for the help in advance!

Fritz

[ValhallaMilitaria]

Well you have an extremely rare item there and that makes setting a price difficult at best...I would love to see it. Whats it worth? 200? 500? I would say that someone with an advanced Winchester collection would be your best bet for a buyer.

[Fritziii]

Well you have an extremely rare item there and that makes setting a price difficult at best...I would love to see it. Whats it worth? 200? 500? I would say that someone with an advanced Winchester collection would be your best bet for a buyer.

Thanks! I did end up getting it, the serial number is 487745 and the carrier is marked cover, spare barrel , M9-D30674. I'll post pics later.

Fritz

[Johnny Peppers]

That serial number is from somewhere around 1910, and the drawing numbers, such as your D-30674, didn't come into use until the early to mid 1930's and continued into late WWII. Looks like you have a Model 1897 barrel and hanger from an earlier gun with a later spare barrel cover.

[ValhallaMilitaria]

That serial number is from somewhere around 1910, and the drawing numbers, such as your D-30674, didn't come into use until the early to mid 1930's and continued into late WWII. Looks like you have a Model 1897 barrel and hanger from an earlier gun with a later spare barrel cover.

You, Sir, have an amazing depth of knowledge.

[Fritziii]

Heres some pics.

[Fritziii]

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[Johnny Peppers]

You have a WWII spare barrel case for a machine gun barrel, and the front end off a Model 97 shotgun. Somewhere there is a Model 97 receiver with that same serial number.

An internet search turned this up.

http://www.militaryitems.com/product...roductid=17392

[Alan Smith]

This is the front end off of a civilian M1897 Winchester shotgun, correct?

[Johnny Peppers]

This is the front end off of a civilian M1897 Winchester shotgun, correct?

Yes, and in fact it looks like what Winchester called their "Brush Gun" made for bird shooters. The Brush Gun had a cylinder bore barrel that was 26 inches long. Changing out everything on a barrel to get another choke was pretty involved, so what most did was to buy another complete barrel assembly in another choke.

[Fritziii]

Thanks John, after finally having some time to go thru my books I came to the same conclusion, bummer but hey it's still a pretty good barrel and with everything else I got with it It'll work out. Thanks!

Fritz

[Alan Smith]

Just wondering: was the barrel/upper assembly sold as being military?

Oh well . . . . we all win some/loose some. If the WWI-era M1911 mag pouches in the background of your photo came in the deal, it looks like you did pick up a couple of nice military items.

[Fritziii]

Hey Al, yes they came with it, there are 20 of them total, all mint unissued, 12 WW1 mills and russell dated 1918, 2 WW2 British made dated 43, 5 Avery 1943 single button and one 47 dated white single button pouch. Not to bad.

Fritz