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    #16
    I seldom step in to any forum to give advice as to value but I will do so in this case. I believe that a number of the posts are from collectors who have no idea of real values. Also looking into the detail of a couple of responses they know little of the values of Lugers.

    First, if it is an all matching pistol, minus the magazine, and it is dated 1940 with a serial number followed by the i suffix it will be marked 42 on the toggle. If it better than 95% with a mismatched magazine it is worth perhaps $1200 quick sale with no holster. The pistol shown appears to be a rare variation of the 1939 or 1940 42 code Mauser in that it has original ersatz brown bakelite grips probably made by Ritzman. This should push it up beyond $1500 assuming condition is 95% or better and all parts match. If the condition, etc is as I suggested a dealer would ask at least $2000.

    A strong holster and good WWII era extra magazine should add at least $400.
    Last edited by GWA; 09-06-2011, 06:54 PM.

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      #17
      Originally posted by GWA View Post
      I seldom step in to any forum to give advice as to value but I will do so in this case. I believe that a number of the posts are from collectors who have no idea of real values. Also looking into the detail of a couple of responses they know little of the values of Lugers.

      First, if it is an all matching pisto,l minus the magazine, and it is dated 1940 with a serial number followed by the i suffix it will be marked 42 on the toggle. If it better than 95% with a mismatched magazine it is worth perhaps $1200 quick sale with no holster. The pistol shown appears to be a rare variation of the 1939 or 1940 42 code Mauser in that it has original ersatz brown bakelite grips probably made by Ritzman. This should push it up beyond $1500 assuming condition is 95% or better and all parts match. If the condition, etc is as I suggested a dealer would ask at least $2000.

      A strong holster and good WWII era extra magazine should add at least $400.
      Well my knowledge of Lugers is not much, I do own 2 DWM one all matching with holster and two Magazines I paid 1200...I have a BYF 1941 all matching including holster and two Magazines the pistol was nickel plated I paid 600...I had it reblued and is now a nice shooter...
      Last edited by Luis22; 09-06-2011, 07:26 PM.

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        #18
        I know I do not have too many posts to back this up but I will agree with this gentleman. I have been around Lugers since I was 11 y/o and have seen the prices go out of sight for low level collectors like me.

        My best advice other than what has already been stated it this....

        Get some better pictures. This will help all of us speak more on the piece. Depending on your camera, you need to figure out how to use the flash and the macro settings. Most of the time the macro setting (the most important) is in the shape of a flower. This will allow you to take more close up shots without the blur. Taking the flash off with help as well with any glare from the finish.

        I have more info to give if you would like to know my opinion but there are lots of knowledgeable people on this site that can help. I will end with this. I see MANY times that people on here and other sites will value items at what THEY wish they could pay. What something actually would sell for and what these values are can range hundreds to thousands of dollars depending on the piece.

        Needless to say I am a big Luger fan. Good luck.

        Jeff

        Originally posted by GWA View Post
        I seldom step in to any forum to give advice as to value but I will do so in this case. I believe that a number of the posts are from collectors who have no idea of real values. Also looking into the detail of a couple of responses they know little of the values of Lugers.

        First, if it is an all matching pistol, minus the magazine, and it is dated 1940 with a serial number followed by the i suffix it will be marked 42 on the toggle. If it better than 95% with a mismatched magazine it is worth perhaps $1200 quick sale with no holster. The pistol shown appears to be a rare variation of the 1939 or 1940 42 code Mauser in that it has original ersatz brown bakelite grips probably made by Ritzman. This should push it up beyond $1500 assuming condition is 95% or better and all parts match. If the condition, etc is as I suggested a dealer would ask at least $2000.

        A strong holster and good WWII era extra magazine should add at least $400.

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          #19
          This is a pistol like George speaks of.
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            #20
            Best not to use the flash with the macro setting. Find an area lighted well enough to take the picture without the flash. The flash burns out the center of the picture.

            These were made with cheap camera, macro setting, room light, and tripod.


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              #21
              On the gunbrooker mismatched Russian captured lugers sell for 6-800 depending on condition. So if you can find all matching luger in that condition for under a 1000 you are doing very good.

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                #22
                +1 on Johnny's post.

                Jeff

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                  #23
                  the two pistols shown above are close to mint 98+ finish (collector grade) … the one that was posted at the beginning of the post looks like a shooter to me…

                  this is my 1917 DWM all matching with two extra magazines and an old holster I paid $1200 ($200 were aucrioneers fees)



                  the one below is a 1914 I paid $500 finnish is all gone but I love the historic value...



                  This is a BYF 41 black widow I had it reblued all matching $600 (inluding holster and maching magazine)



                  Previous condition:

                  Last edited by Luis22; 09-07-2011, 07:57 AM.

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                    #24
                    I had to put my high waders on to read about 1/2 the posts in this thread.

                    Get some real pics up, though.
                    MLP

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by MikeP View Post
                      I had to put my high waders on to read about 1/2 the posts in this thread.

                      Get some real pics up, though.
                      ???????

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                        #26
                        By the way ..several Lugers 1940 with wood grips sold today for $900 at the RIA. I believe the Economic crisis is also hitting hard on guns...a year ago they would sell for $1200.....

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                          #27
                          Is this the 3-day weekend for the big RIA auction? I think they were saying that something like 250 Lugers are up for sale (among hundreds of other vintage military firearms).

                          Yes, I think the RIA results will help us get a feel of current fair market value (at least on the more common WWI and WWII collectable firearms). My understanding is that at these auctions the really outstanding guns will bring crazy prices, but that for the more common guns what you see bid is a pretty accurate picture of the current marketplace.

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                            #28
                            Six months ago, I paid $1200 for a matching 41byf black widow, with very nice 1941 holster and two mags. I'd say this one was 95%+ finish, with very minimal holster wear. I've seen the same thing sell for nearly $3000 on auction/dealer sites. Let's get real, the price of this stuff has declined dramatically in the past year. If you paid that for a rig in the past few years, you better sit down, have a few drinks, and try to relax. Things will look better in the morning.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by MikeP View Post
                              I had to put my high waders on to read about 1/2 the posts in this thread.

                              Get some real pics up, though.
                              I have NO idea what that even MEANS.....
                              I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.....

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                                #30
                                Sold yesterday S42 1936 realized price $750...

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