Price range for an original MP40

[Peter B]

I know there are variables involved such as condition, matching no's etc however what is the general price range for an original MP40?

Any info. would be appreciated. Thanks.

[kiwicollector]

The biggest variable would be your location. For example a live MP-40 in the USA can sell for up to US$15,000.00 while in New Zealand they sell for up to US$1,800.00 if you can find them. I think Finland has similar prices to NZ for live MP-40's.

I have no idea what a de-activated one would cost in Australia, Canada or the UK.

[GEBIRGS-JAGER]

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Hi i bought my MP-40 deact.For 950.00CDN about 2 years ago,(matching#) if you can find one in Canada now it is about 1400-1500.I have seen ads in the UK for app.1800 pounds sterling.In the US all i see are parts sets (repro receiver) with original parts app.1000.00.Hope this helps. Brian

[P08]

How come they can be so incredibly expensive in the US?


A second question: Are there any sites with info on MP40s regarding production, makers marks etc.?

[Tom M]

Yes I agree

The price is so high I think because it was one of the most recognised and famous guns of WW2. Matching NO's now will set you back £1900-2200, from a dealer.

[Tom M]

I also hear that they are in abundance in wharehouses, eastern europe etc. They will not release them though because it would flood the market.

[kiwicollector]

How come they can be so incredibly expensive in the US?
A second question: Are there any sites with info on MP40s regarding production, makers marks etc.?

Simple Supply and Demand, there are a lot of people in the US and a fineite number of MP-40's as they cannot be imported for the civilian market.

[Matt Weber]

Not only can they not be imported any longer, but they also have to be transferable firearms (registered!). That is why the price is so high. Rich collectors and government regulations have now put the cost of these once common class 3 firearms out of reach for most collectors to purchase.

Back to the original question now. In the USA, an original MP40 usually brings $10,000 or more. I recently found one that was offered to me for $6,500. Unfortunately I don't have that kind of $$ to blow on a gun, but that is probably the cheapest one I could ever hope to find!

Dummy guns (deactivated, basically parts kits with a cut reciever), you can get in the US for $500-$600.

Matt

[Frank De Smedt]

Matt,

Do you really pay so much???
We pay 1000€ MAX. All you need is a collectors license which is hard to get these days.
Some older people still have them like they found'm on the street in 44-45.

regards,

FRANK

[Felix]

Well....

In Sweden I guess they are from 400 euros to 700 euros depending on condition. I got my used, but with matching numbers, early made MP 40 (manufactured 1941) for 400 Euros about 6 years ago. The problem in Sweden is how to store them to fulfill the law requirements.

Skål,

Felix

[Peter B]

Thanks for all the responses and info.

Much appreciated.!!

[P08]

Felix

Skål selv How are you required to store it? Isn't it enough to have an approved weapons safe which is bolted to the floor/wall?

Are you allowed to take your MP40 to a shooting range and have some fun?

[schönbeck]

hmm not many people in sweden have a license for a functional machinegun, its extremly hard to get. A deactivated is easier but still very hard. And you cant fire them in many places.

[Felix]

..about full auto guns in Sweden..

To P 08 and others.....

Its like this;

Its not forbidden by the law to own a fully operational full auto gun in Sweden today. Its more a question of having the right safe. Basically as long as you meet thess requirements you can have almost anything.

You can get a weapons license for several reasons in Sweden; Hunting, target shooting and collecting. And as Im not interested in hunting rifles and shotguns but want to buy the stuff Im interested in I have to become a collector. To own a full auto gun for target shooting is almost impossible if youre not among the better shooters in Sweden.

First of all you have to get recognised by the authorities as a collector. This means you have to be member of atleast one serious gun collecting community for some years. You also have to present your field of collecting to the police authority. If the police authority agrees on your collecting field the next step is to show a reciept of having bought a safe of a certain standard.

Its not allowed to have "military small arms" as your field of collceting. The police asks you to specify a field wich is possible to complete. Like in my case I collect German military hand guns between 1898-1945. This actually also a "too large field of collecting" to ever finish my collection. Literally this field covers atleast 1000 weapons. With a bit of bargaining skills the police agrees on this. Frankly, the gun experts in the police authority, knows surprisingly little about military weapons.

This is part I really hate a lot! The police authorities set the conditions for my interest and possibilities of collecting! They claim Im not a serious collector if I have 5 guns from germany, 2 from sweden and 3 from USA. My goodness!! You can draw a parallell with a person collecting cars. If one guy has one Bentley, one Rolls Royce and two Mercedes and one Ferrari he should not be a serious collector??? Go to any museum and tell them they are not serious...

The police authority agrees on the field of guns your allowed to collect. The gun controlling laws seems to get stricter almost every year now. To include a full-automatic gun in your collection you must have special reason today. However to show you have a very serious interest in history and guns and after having your field of collecting accepted by the authorities this should be enough. But the police is likely in many cases to tell you not to be allowed to have any fully-automatic guns. You may accept this and only buy semi-automatic guns or you can enter an appeal against this authority decision.

But you are not likely to win such a case in court. The society is politically correct and the laws are interpreted very strict today.

When it comes to storage in a safe the police use this mathematics. A bolt repeating rifle is counted as one gun, one semiautomatic is counted as two guns, one revelver or pistol is counted as two guns and a fully automatic gun is counted as four guns. In an ordinary safe for storing guns youre not allowed to have more than 20 "guns". This means 10 pistols or revolvers and nothing else or how you choose to combine the above mathematics.

If you have more than 20 "guns" you must meet very high standards of storage in a safe. This kind of safe is called "kasun" and usually weighs too much for keeping in an apartment. A "kasun" weighs from approx 500 kg to over 1000 kg. If you get this for storage you have much easier to get a permission to own fully automatic guns.

Ofcourse the legislation is very complex and there are more options, especially if you already owns some guns and is getting permission for a new one. But if you want to start to collect today in Sweden this is about how it is. Also; Its not legal to fire a gun for collceting. You can obtain a special permission for this by the police. If you can show that you do some research or something. Some dealers are allowed to fire even these weapons because they must see that the gun is functional. Its smart to know a dealer sometimes But the legislations is reaching the dealers too. A gun dealer is not allowed to store fully automatic guns if they dont have a buyer for it. This makes it complicated as well. A lot of fully automatic guns is beeing converted to semi-automatic today. Much easier for all parts but the fun is gone. I love my two fully operational full auto guns!! These are guns my freinds !!!!

Its problematic and can also be costly but its still legal to collect full auto guns. Im really afraid for the day we get a new legislation like the one in Great britain. Im sure it will come some day. Till then the authorities will do their best to cut down the amount of weapons in our society.

Skål ( Swedish for cheers)

/ Felix

p.s. Keep up the good work with this forum! I spend atleast one hour here every day!! Almost an addiction but boy, have I learned a lot? YES!!!

[P08]

Felix


Takk for informationen.

Talk about complicated rules. But at least you *can* get a full auto. Also you can legally own sport handguns in cal. 45 for example. Cross the bridge to Copenhagen and forget about anything larger or more powerful than a 9mm or 357 Mag (sport handguns).

Getting a K98 on a collectors permit is just as hard here. You must convince the police that you just have to have it which is almost impossible Hunters however can easily get one.... They just go out a buy one on their hunting permit. Stupid rules.

The more complicated the rules are made the more people will say; screw the rules I'm getting one anyway....