Going Rate for a ARTILLERY Luger 1917 non-import

[Jumper]

Hello,

I recently picked this up. Nice 1917 Artillery luger. All matching but the magazine and the extractor.. Suppose that would be the first part that would break for a combat gun? The bore is in good/very good condition. Nice groves and bright.

The only real "negative" I can see about it is the small pitting on the side plate.

The rest of the bluing looks orgiinal with some very small rust specks here and there. Not a mint piece but an honest piece.

Not being a big gun guy I wanted to toss it up here for discussion.

Thanks for any info

[Jumper]

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[Jumper]

The "30" extractor is the only non-matching piece... the rest are 97

The neat part is the 30 has the imperial stamp on it which tells me that it was replaced then or at least with a proper aged part?

[Jumper]

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[Alan Smith]

Maybe it is just my eyes, but the non-matching extractor (numbered "30") appears to be Weimar-era production by Simson of Suhl, Germany (based on the "Eagle over 6" proof mark found on it).

[Jumper]

could be...I dont know all the marks that well. It looks like an Imperial era type eagle to me?

[Johnny Peppers]

I agree with Alan that the eagle appears to be the Weimar era eagle, and probably Simson.

[Jumper]

Ok.. it was replaced in the 20's?

How does that help or hurt this piece?

thanks J

[Johnny Peppers]

It could have been replaced during the 1920's or it could have been replaced by a previous owner just a few years ago. In the end it really doesn't matter one way or the other except for the fact that the extractor is mis-matched to the pistol.
Simpson Ltd. typically has pretty nice matching 1917 date LP.08's priced around the $3000 range. Someone here put fourth the formula for pricing Simpson's Lugers as taking 50% of his advertised price for a realistic value.

[Jumper]

Yes, I too enjoy looking at the listings at SIMPSON... Never bought anything but great pics.

From other listings that have sold I figured around 1900-2100

Is that a realisitc window from a private seller?

thanks J

[Johnny Peppers]

Probably a very close estimate.

[MikeP]

Yep

They ain't making any more of these.

Biggest problem with Lugers is the average price has climbed above the average pocketbook.

Second is shooting them. I have owned a great many over the years and even fired 1900s.

I blew up a nice P38 sometime ago and rarely fire any of my related pieces these days.

[ValhallaMilitaria]

Probably a very close estimate.

I concur. Simpson Ltd is for those folks whose pockets go deep and don't care about overpaying for an item.....for a real laugh, go look at their German militaria section and their prices for that.