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    #16
    Commercial Luger

    Hi Robert,

    In my opinion, you have what is called Commercial Luger 1923 or, according author Jan Still, "Alphabet Luger". Looking the fine pictures you post it is possible to see clearly the 1920-era German Commercial proof (crowned N) on the left side of the receiver. It is called "Alphabet" because the letter suffix added around 1921/22, replacing the five digit serial numbers.

    Also, as happens with those Lugers, the barrel must not be bigger than 4 inc. because the Versailles Treaty. The same law also said that 9mm guns were forbidden to civilians, so I think yours it is chambered to .30 Luger (7,65mm Parabellum).

    Usually, Commercial Lugers didn´t bring any date over the chamber and many has the "Germany" word stamped on its right side or behind the barrel, since a lot were sold in US at that time. Also many were made using left-over parts form the WWI as well other were completely new guns.

    Two things call my attention: the front sight (a different type that I don´t recall to have seen before) and the finish. It seems that your gun was replued sometime in the past. Please, note thet its finish is the same all over the gun. However, small parts as trigger, take-down lever and the safety lever had strawed finish - but not blue. Another clue is the serial number stamped behind the barrel, that looks too thin.

    But it is nice looking gun anyway, and it can be a great shooter if you find the ammo. Let´s see what the others tell.

    All the best,

    Douglas.

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      #17
      Hi Robert,

      I would agree with Douglas.
      The proof mark in front of the side-plate 'crown over N'
      denotes 'German 'Nitro' commercial proof. Found on Lugers produced after 1920.Reciever proof is upright'(from 'Lugers at Random' by Charles Kenyon)

      Does your pistol have 'Germany' or 'Made in Germany' on the front grip strap?
      Is there any mark over the chamber?

      And what camera do you have?
      Great close-up shots.

      All the best,
      Steve.

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        #18
        Thanks, Ronnie and Douglas.

        I'll try to address every issue you both brought up. Yes, the pistol has at one time been reblued. Yes, Doug, it is clearly evident when viewing the different marks, that the smith that reblued it wasn't much concerned about how deeply he polished. And your guess regarding the caliber is correct; It is a .30 caliber. There are clearly no other markings/proofs anywhere on the pistol. Whoever reblued the piece might have worked away all markings on the receiver to 'clean it up.' I thought too that the 'N' was topped with what looked like a crown. I thank you both for the help. I know a whole lot more about it than I did yesterday.

        Thanks

        Robert

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          #19
          Does anyone have any idea what the small 'k' markings on the pistol represent?


          What $ value could you place on a piece like this that has been reblued, yet in very good overall condition?

          Robert

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            #20
            Steve,

            I am using the Sony DSC-F717 Digital, 5.0 megapixel. Very user friendly. I didn't need to use any high-tech. editing software for these pics either. Here's a link where you can pick one up for a steal: http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_g...511a309992268c

            Robert

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              #21
              The "k" suffix

              Robert,

              Up to 1921/22 the DWM (Deutsche Waffen und Munitionfabriken - the Luger main manufacturer until 1929) numbered their Commercial Lugers in a continuous series starting with 0001 in 1900. At that time the serial was around 92000 - if I´m not mistaken, since I´m not at home and writing without my books - but they decided to use the same serial system used by the German Armed Forces, which was, batches of 10000 guns (running from 0001 to 9999), added by a letter suffix everytime that they had to restart the numbering (0001a - 9999a, 0001b - 9999b, and so on).

              However, when they changed the system, they simply converted the serial number. So they didn´t start it at the "a" block, but from the "h" block, since they had done more than 90000 pistols.

              So, the "k" letter in your Luger is part of its serial number, and must be stamped in its barrel and frame (front). All the others small pieces must bring the last two digit of its serial number - in your case "28".

              Concerning the price, I won´t tell you anything, since I´m not in the US and the prices practiced here are not so familiar to me. An educated guess would be US$ 500.00, but let´s see what the others tell.

              Regards,

              Douglas.

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