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    G43 questions. What is duffel bag cut

    I am talking to the owner of a WW2 German G43 that his family has for sale. I have not seen the weapon and wont see it until 10 July but I am trying to get all my "duckies in a row" for when we meet.

    The owner told me it is marked Guftloff 1944, G43 5xx9J, AC 44 and the single mag is marked AYE G43 AB. I would guess the serial number would place it mid 1944? Only my guess. No mention of the scope mount or scope. I can only hope.

    I have done a search on this Forum of past threads on the G43 and most have been very helpful but the one question I need to ask is...What is "duffel bag" cut? Is it the wood stock? The barrel? Is it both wood and barrel?

    When we meet, I will be looking for the typical sanded/finished stock to include the "thinner" hand grip area, any reworked steel parts, matching serial numbers and most importantly, the VOPO markings.
    I will then post photos of the G43 for better comments.

    Almost forgot... his asking price is 2,500US but is negotiable.
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    The "duffel cut" usually refers to the cutting of the stock under the rear barrel band. The rifle stocks were generally too long to fit inside a standard GI duffel bag so they were cut into two pieces... In some cases, if the cut is done neatly, once the rifle is reassembled the cut is hidden by the band.

    However, a lot of times the stock is left as is, giving it that sporterized look... certainly effecting the collector value of the piece.

    Hope this helps.

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      #3
      I bought a Kar98k once that had been duffle-bag cut under the rear band. I simply added a thin layer of leather between the two pieces of the stock and it fit fine. Apparently the layer of leather was the same thickness that the saw blade that had cut the stock had been.

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        The GIs made a cut in the stock so it would fit in a duffle bag or box when shipping home. The best duffle cuts are under the front band. I have seen a duffle cut straight through the thickest part of the stock, behind the sling slot.

        Some guys like the duffle cut, as it serves as provance (sp?), others don't. You are looking at a very common code and paying full market value. If it has been sporterized in ANY way...I would pass.

        I have bought three G/K43s on Gunbroker over the past six months for under $2,500...all were 100% matching, without the duffle cut, and without any sanding or post war finish applied to the stock. One even came with the spare parts stuffed in the butt--that wasn't mentioned in the auction

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          Originally posted by DennyB View Post
          I bought a Kar98k once that had been duffle-bag cut under the rear band. I simply added a thin layer of leather between the two pieces of the stock and it fit fine. Apparently the layer of leather was the same thickness that the saw blade that had cut the stock had been.

          That's the best option for "fixing" a duffle cut. I would NEVER stick dowls in the stock and glue it back together.

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            #6
            Without the dowells you will have a very weak repair.

            The piece will not be serviceable if you intend to fire it.

            There is a good tutorial on "gunboards" that explains this repair.

            I once saw a duffle cut at the wrist on a G43.
            MLP

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              #7
              I'd be lookin around for one uncut,even if I had to travel a little.
              People are takin a second look at things they can get shed of in
              order to get extra money. When I've got the hots for a luger or
              P 38 I'll go look,if I don't see one I'll ask and they'll turn around
              and ask somebody "don't so & so still have that ole P 38 he wanted
              to get rid of. It's worked twice for me. Won't hurt and you'll have a
              good time hittin all the gun shops.

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                Thanks guys for all the comments but as stated, I cannot see the weapon until 10 July so I have no idea what it looks like or if it even has been "duffel cut".

                I also need to ask this question after reading these posts so that I better understand the whole term of duffel cut. The solider would removed the receiver and barrel from the wooden stock and because the wood was longer than the bag it was at that time cut/shortened to fit inside the bag for the journey home.

                I have never heard this term before and I never knew anything was done like this either. I have heard of "sporterizing" the stock to make it lighter for those who deer hunt and this past weekend I took some time to see if any of my 98K's were duffel cut and none were so I guess that's a good thing.

                Does anyone have a duffel cut G43 to share for an example?

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                  #9
                  Yes, metal was removed from the stock--in all the 98Ks and G/K43s I have seen with a duffle cut. The metal should be fine.

                  I don't shoot matching examples; so, I wouldn't repair the cut just to make the gun serviceable. I'd rather buy a repro stock if I HAD to shoot the gun.

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