Carcano Stock SN "Force Matching" Question

[theinglebaby23]

I found a nice Carcano Cavalry carbine, but it had the serial number on the stock "force matched" with the serial number on the receiver. I'm tracking that at some point most Italian military rifles were refurbished, but that's about all I could dig up. Anybody know when this refurbishing/force-matching took place (pre, during, post-war)? What's the story behind this?
Thanks,
Rich

[phild]

I found a nice Carcano Cavalry carbine, but it had the serial number on the stock "force matched" with the serial number on the receiver. I'm tracking that at some point most Italian military rifles were refurbished, but that's about all I could dig up. Anybody know when this refurbishing/force-matching took place (pre, during, post-war)? What's the story behind this?
Thanks,
Rich

I can not answer the question without more information. Carcano's we made for for maybe 50 years or so with a lot of models and variations. It was common for weapons to be re-worked after wars.....but also during wars and sometimes before issue in a war....so for 20th century pretty much all the time!

I've never understood the term "forced matched"....like most other names given to things by the new experts over the last 20-30 years...it is just mis-leading BS.

When armouries and military repair faciltities re-build and re-number weapons, they gauge and when necessary re-fit parts......usually the work is as good and often even better than when the factory built the weapon orginally.....there was NO FORCING to it. Bascially weapons being checked, fitted and finished mulitiple times to exacting standards by several sets of eyes are better!!

This is not to say that re-works are better or not or more valuable...bla bla bla....just another side to the story that is the truth and that one never hears suggested by the experts these days,

[theinglebaby23]

Thanks for the response. I got what you're saying (I'm a long-time gun collector myself), however I've seen this done on this type of rifle and read that it was common, what I'm looking for here is a little more in-depth info on the "force stamp."

Photo is attached of the one I'm looking at.

Thanks again,

Rich

[phild]

Thanks for the photo. It appears that the new matching number was stamped over the "old" number on the stock. It would be interesting to determine if any of the metal parts were also renumbered and/or refinished.

I guess where I am headed with this would be to try and determine if the stock was replaced as part of a facility level overhaul/rework or if it may have been done at a very local level, say a unit, and re-numbered there as well.

It is for sure that parts like the stock/hanguard and bolts were routinely replaced by unit level amorers and still are even now.

[theinglebaby23]

Ya. I guess my biggest question is whether this re-stamping was conducted pre or post war...

[kanister]

Ya. I guess my biggest question is whether this re-stamping was conducted pre or post war...

What War?
From 1891:

1896 Etyopia
1911 Libia
1915-1918 WW!
1920 Libia again
1936 Etyopia again
1938 Spain
1940-1945 WWII
and more.....

[theinglebaby23]

The gun was built in 1936.

[Norman Hamilton]

Looks fine to me. I bought a case of ten muskettos with the folding bayonet in 1963. This cost $31. Bought them through the mail at the age of 15 y/o.

All of the stocks were re-numbered in this manner....