K98 Sniper

[shed]

Hi Guys,

Just received an sms regarding a k98 sniper variation. I have not yet seen it,
but would like to buy it if it is in an all original condition. I know it is a very dificult area if you dont know about these rifles as many copies are made. According to my source, it is something like the one Ed Harris / Major kônig used in the movie "Enemy at the gates".

But I would like to ask you what to basics to look for in order to tell if it is real or not.

Any explanations or links would be higly apreciated. Thanks.

brgds
Shed

[Steve Flanagan]

Sniper

First buy the books, read them, memorize them, then handle a few accepted authentic examples so you get the feel for them, then have a few people you trust to help you when you think youve found the one you want. Its a minefield out there, better to not walk through it blindfolded.

[Gimpy117]

wasn't it an Ajack equipped rifle?

but be careful..Snipers are HEAVILY faked

[John Macrini]

wasn't it an Ajack equipped rifle?

but be careful..Snipers are HEAVILY faked

Yes.... German Snipers are very heavily faked..... that's why i just make my own....... that way i am 100% sure they are authentic



Post some high quality close ups of the mounts, scope....... well everything...

[shed]

Hm,

Thought that it was possible to see the diffrence between origals and fakes in the way they are made. Ie. the bolt handeling, or the way the trigger works etc. year of production, stamps etc.

brgds
Shed

[SINGLE CLAW]

wasn't it an Ajack equipped rifle?

but be careful..Snipers are HEAVILY faked

Konigs Rifle had a 6X Ebra Scope on it that had Knurled Focus Ring Removed so it would fit between the Single Claw Rings Correctly . Not an Ajack

[John Macrini]

Konigs Rifle had a 6X Ebra Scope on it that had Knurled Focus Ring Removed so it would fit between the Single Claw Rings Correctly . Not an Ajack

Here ya go......

[SINGLE CLAW]

Sorry Gents made a small mistake it`s not a 6X but an 8X Ebra .

[John Macrini]

Sorry Gents made a small mistake it`s not a 6X but an 8X Ebra .

Single Claw you are the man! I have been told this by quite a few people...... I could not tell from the photo's but you know your stuff! KUDOS to you sir!

[Gimpy117]

Hm,

Thought that it was possible to see the diffrence between origals and fakes in the way they are made. Ie. the bolt handeling, or the way the trigger works etc. year of production, stamps etc.

brgds
Shed

well yes...but if the faker really knows what theyre doing it gets tough. they'll put on period scopes and mounts... force match stuff... and use guns in the proper number range. Plus the Normal K-98 is very similar to the sniper. With the same bolt setup etc. (unless there is a low scope saftey and those can be put on very easily).

[shed]

Hi

I am going to see the rifle tomorrow. I hope and pray that it is original and from that period or else I just look elswhere untill something comes up.

brgds
Shed

[SINGLE CLAW]

Single Claw you are the man! I have been told this by quite a few people...... I could not tell from the photo's but you know your stuff! KUDOS to you sir!

John
Thank You for the kind remark , But I am not anything special there are Quite a few others Who know much more than Myself when it comes to the Complete German Sniper Rifle . My main interest is in the Scopes & Mounting Systems , I myself still have a panel of collectors I use to either approve or disappove of the Rifle when I am going to purchase something . I think if someone thinks they are so smart they do not need or want other collectors opinions thats a foolish collector . at least when collecting German Sniper Rifles. There are situations when You can not have this luxury but for the most part this is how I purchased most of my German Sniper Rifle Collection , Scopes and Mounts are a bit different as I said this is my main Study Field . Best Regards DaveR

[rogerbh]

Since I got on the internet, 2005, I have read where numerous collectors have stopped buying German Sniper rifles as the fakes were getting so good that they had a hard time trying to figure out if it was a fake or not.

My noobish attempts pre-internet resulted in the purchase of 7 out of 8 as later being labeled fakes.

Good Luck in the minefield you are pursuing.

[SINGLE CLAW]

I have been Very Fortunate in My Collecting Pursuit I attribute this to help from other Collectors . Honestly I have been very fortunate not having got burned on any of the Rifles I have bought . But I can say the more chances You get to inspect Originals the better You will get to know good from bad . Photos can help but there is nothing like hands on the real thing . The one thing can say is never be afraid to ask another Collector for their Opinion as long as they are Qualified to do so. Best Regards DaveR

[phild]

Since I got on the internet, 2005, I have read where numerous collectors have stopped buying German Sniper rifles as the fakes were getting so good that they had a hard time trying to figure out if it was a fake or not.

My noobish attempts pre-internet resulted in the purchase of 7 out of 8 as later being labeled fakes.

Good Luck in the minefield you are pursuing.

I agree with Dave's remarks above. I will say that IMO it is no more difficult to verify a German sniper rifle than any other type of German military item of that price range....say an SS officer's tunic, knights cross or camo FJ helmet...to name a few.

They are like every other item in that the close fakes are about 95% right but getting that other 5% right is almost impossible.

I think that it is actually very difficult to correctly fake a factory set up German sniper rifle down to every detail. There is enough data known now to get some very good ideas on what scope makes and serial numbers were used with the various mount types on rifles by maker and serial number.....so just obtaining all of the correct combination would be difficult and then some types of factory set ups will have unique proof/acceptance stamp arrangements....etc.. so there is a lot to mess up when trying to fake one.