Rare german rifle help

[john mack]

I have an opportunity to get this , need some info guys..

[john mack]

MORE of the hamon

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[john mack]

Sight

This is a fantastic firearm , i did some research but to no avail .

[Gene]

You have a Zwilling, a combination shotgun and rifle. These were also called "cape guns" and were very popular up to the 30's. The scope looks like a nice 6 power Zeiss. As for value I'd say it's in the $1200-$1500 range.

[Steve Flanagan]

Rifle

What are the caliber/gauges, JP Sauer makes some nice firearms, but why are there three claw mounts on the rib of the gun, is that one closest to the breech removeable or does it slide for eye relief? Strange, may be wrong scope for the rig. Still easily $900 up depending on if it was bubbafied anywhere, Need the barrel markings under the forend wood as well

[john mack]

Gun

I will need to stop over my buddies house again or call for the marks steve . Its a good start , a fantasitc work of art the butt plate is made of horn as well wood is excellent plus .

[Steve Flanagan]

Sauer

Just find out the caliber, off the wall hard to get calibers do affect value but you cant get hurt at value stated and look carefully at those 3 scope claw mounts on the rib,,,, They should all three be engraved exactly the same, same checkering on the surface or somethings probably been added. Or an eye relieve adjustment of some sort if that one on the breech end looks like it can be adjusted.

[john mack]

Gun

I will have to go over it again , we were in a rush this morning and my camera batteries were almose shot , post more later and see what i can come up with , thanks steve

[sauerfan]

John,

as previously stated, you have a cape gun. It is marked Sauer, but most probably, it’s not a gun manufactured by Sauer, but only distributed by Sauer. You’ll note it’s marked “J. P. Sauer & Sohn, Zweigniederlassung Berlin“ (J. P. Sauer & Sohn, subsidiary Berlin). Sauer had a sales shop in Berlin (Jägerstrasse 59/60 – the finest shopping area at that time) until ..... 1930 or 1931, don’t know exactly at the moment. It was closed then due to the depression.

All Sauers I’ve seen having not the Suhl address, but the Berlin address were not made by Sauer. In said shop not only Sauer made guns were sold, but also guns of other makers.

Anyway, this will not detract the value of the gun, as it looks really nice.

As the other members I’d like to see photos of the markings on the bottom of the barrel set. Maybe there is a proof date present, maybe some markings by which the maker can be determined.

Regards

Martin