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    Picked up these on the weekend, is it possible to read the labels to see what the headstamps should be


    1918 dated WW1
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    1918
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      #3
      next up WW2
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        headstamp
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          #5
          next up nice box label not so good
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            #6
            headstamps mostly all the same
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              Tracer up last
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                #8
                is it the correct label? all matching stamps
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                  Hi Mike,

                  The info stamped on the label immediately following "Patrh" should match the headstamp. Patrh stands for patrone or cartridge. That is the case.

                  The remaining info on the label is about the powder, bullet, primer and who assembled the components and the type of round that is in the box. S.m.K. means armor piercing. AP rounds will also have a red primer sealant. For AP rounds, there will also usually be info on the label about the AP components of the bullet. I don't see that info on your label so that maker (P on the second line = Polte) apparently didn't put the info on the label since it is so early. I have some boxes of 1936 S.m.K that do have the info about the AP components on the label.

                  s.S means standard ball ammo. The round with the black tip is a tracer round and would have L'Spur at the end of the first line on the label.

                  I can also tell you it is fairly rare to find S.m.K ammo that is not also L'Spur (tracer).

                  Regards, Leon
                  Last edited by leondes; 03-23-2010, 10:07 AM.

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                    #10
                    I thought the black tipped bullets were artillery spotting rounds that exploded on contact. You should be able to hear a clicking noise when you tap the bullet, that is the igniter moving with-in the bullet.

                    Bill

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                      #11
                      Hi Bill,

                      The black tipped are tracer. The spotter rounds (B.-Patronen) are black near the case throat. See the link.

                      http://lmd-militaria.com/page660.html

                      Regards, Leon

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                        #12
                        Thanks Leon, good website link aswell

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by leondes View Post
                          Hi Bill,

                          The black tipped are tracer. The spotter rounds (B.-Patronen) are black near the case throat. See the link.

                          http://lmd-militaria.com/page660.html

                          Regards, Leon
                          There was also early B.Patronen which had chromed tip of the bullet without black color on bottom of the bullet.

                          And black tipped rounds had two versions:
                          1. L´spur had 10mm high black paint on tip of the round -> Leuchtspur(L´spur) was brightly burning tracer)
                          2. Gl´spur had 5mm high black paint on tip of the round -> Glimmspur(Gl´spur) was not as brightly burning tracer)
                          Last edited by jiipee76; 03-27-2010, 10:53 AM.

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